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    Two weeks ago I got a pair of E. Anthonyi "Santa Isabel" and they are in a temporary tank while I'm setting up a larger one for them. Next thing I know "Dad" is carrying around two tads on his back. Doesn't he know I'm not ready for them? He does have a water dish to deposit them into but I'm not ready for them after that. I don't have any almond leaves or anything like that to make tadpole tea. I do have some Blackwater Extract that I got at the January Super show. Can I use that or what do you guys recommend? I guess it was kind of stupid of me to think they'd wait until I had everything ready to go. Dad has gone in and out of the water dish a few times but they don't seem to get off. Strange I didn't see the eggs... I've looked all over. Well, at least there are only two of them to worry about. I'll try and get a picture of him with the tads if I can but he's being a little protective and hides when get my camera out.

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    Congrats on the tads Cheri.
    Hopefully one of our breeder friends can help you with this.
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    There's a guy named Brian who breeds E. Anthonyi who lives about 15 minutes from me. I've left him a message to see if I can come over to see his tad setup but being its a holiday I'm not sure if I'll hear back from him today. I was planning on visiting him when I got the chance but I guess Tony (male) and Isabel (female) are on their own time schedule. I hope my two Veradero don't get frisky just yet. All the rest of my other darts are just babies right now so I have plenty of time before I have to worry about them.

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    Okay he dropped them off in the water dish. They don't move very much. Are they supposed to? Should I leave them in the dish or move them to a separate container? Where is everybody today?
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    If youve not got almond leaves you can use oak leaves or black alder cones to make the tea or even standard redbush tea teabags
    0.0.2 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    0.0.3 Dendrobates azureus
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius "Alanis" (tads)
    3.3.0 Epipedobates anthonyi (+tads!)
    0.0.1 Lepidobatrachus laevis
    0.0.4 Pyllobates terribilis
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya imitator "Chazuta"
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya vanzolini
    0.0.6 Xenopus laevis

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    Well, here's what I've got. The blackwater extract is on the left. I don't think these are oak leaves, but this is all the leaves I've got. They were sold as leaf litter. We don't drink tea in California. And I doubt they'll have that brand of tea here, but is it a specific flavor?

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    oopps forgot the pictures.
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    You can use blackwater extract - I do. Just put a good squirt in a few litres (a gallon for example) so the water is distinctly tinted and you're good to go. The tadpole bites are fine food. A good pelleted fish food like I recommend in my thread on raising tinctorius is a smart addition to their diet.

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    How exciting Cheri ..Congratulations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebony View Post
    How exciting Cheri ..Congratulations
    Yes, it was very exciting. It was neat to watch him sitting in the water dish wiggling his legs as they slid off into the water. They are very tiny.

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    Yay!! Congrats!!
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    It will be the first of many I bet - these guys never stop once they have started!
    They prob wont eat for a couple of days until they absorb their yolk sac but I feed mine a mixture of tadpole bites, tropical fish flake, freeze dried bloodworm and sinking spirolina granules (all got off ebay!). They will take livefoods like vinegar eels and microworm too but I mostly rely on the dry food.

    Good luck!
    0.0.2 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    0.0.3 Dendrobates azureus
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius "Alanis" (tads)
    3.3.0 Epipedobates anthonyi (+tads!)
    0.0.1 Lepidobatrachus laevis
    0.0.4 Pyllobates terribilis
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya imitator "Chazuta"
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya vanzolini
    0.0.6 Xenopus laevis

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    Thanks Mike. Your article was the first place I went to when I saw he was carrying around the tads. You're a big help...thanks for letting us post your article in the care section. It is the best care article for these frogs that I have seen anywhere on the internet....and trust me I think I read them all yesterday.

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    That is so cool that you got to watch 'dad' in action - sweet!! I guess that's one way to double your frog count ~

    Congratulations, and get their new digs ready asap!

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    I found some more eggs this morning. There are about 6-8 eggs in a film canister he's guarding. I'm going to leave them there and let him take them to the water dish. This time I'm going to see if I can get a picture or video of him transporting them.

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    That is so neat!! I hope you catch him in the act!
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    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshmerlie View Post
    I found some more eggs this morning. There are about 6-8 eggs in a film canister he's guarding. I'm going to leave them there and let him take them to the water dish. This time I'm going to see if I can get a picture or video of him transporting them.
    OK, whos more excited.... you or dad?
    Pretty awesome Cheri
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
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    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonLisk View Post
    OK, whos more excited.... you or dad?
    Pretty awesome Cheri
    I don't know its a toss up. I'm pretty giddy when I see them ...but he also carries the tads around for a couple of hours before he takes them to the water bowl. Don't tell me he's not bragging.

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    He's an active lil dude, isn't he? Doesn't he know that carrying them around so long will get old after a few dozen tads? Too funny!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshmerlie View Post
    Thanks Mike. Your article was the first place I went to when I saw he was carrying around the tads. You're a big help...thanks for letting us post your article in the care section. It is the best care article for these frogs that I have seen anywhere on the internet....and trust me I think I read them all yesterday.
    Thats very kind Cheri than you.
    Well I'm sure you'll have plenty of oppurtunity - these guys dont stop breeding lol
    0.0.2 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    0.0.3 Dendrobates azureus
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius "Alanis" (tads)
    3.3.0 Epipedobates anthonyi (+tads!)
    0.0.1 Lepidobatrachus laevis
    0.0.4 Pyllobates terribilis
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya imitator "Chazuta"
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya vanzolini
    0.0.6 Xenopus laevis

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