20g vertical pdf initial build - clay background

[guppygal]

Heheh - you're gonna 'dig' this - my clay recipe uses cat litter. It has to be the special kind without additives, but you can find it at Petsmart - Dr. Elsey's Precious Cat Ultra Scoopable Litter. It's pure clay, no perfumes or deodorants. A little goes a loooong way, and you want to mix it up really well. My husband suggested using a paint stirring bit on a drill in a 5 gallon bucket. I'm too lazy - I put a little bit in a big ziplock back and mash it up with water while I watch tv. Do whatever works for you. Hmmm, I didn't even consider using a Oster and let it mix on its own - it just might work.

I've mixed up a few batches so far and for me, it's just trying to add enuf water. I keep making it too thick. Once it's thin enough, maybe the consistency of pancake batter, I add some peat moss, and/or green moss, some kind of organic stuff to thicken it back up a bit. You can get very creative at this point -

When you start your project, it's important to not let the clay dry too fast. I, personally, use a piece of eggcrate for support. I mash in the clay rather thickly, then press in my cork pieces. I do this inside the tank while its laying on its back. After that, I add some climbing plants like spike moss, then cover the tank to keep the humidity in and put a light over it. I mist it periodically to keep the clay from drying so quickly that it cracks. So far, it's working out nicely. You can use red art clay if you want, but I don't have access to a store that carries it. Besides, I like to do things 'outside' the box, so to speak. And I like the idea that it's a no brainer to get the plants to grow up the wall.

Now, this 20g is my first clay project, and I like what I see. It will be the test of time to see if it holds up. So far, so good....

[MikeM670]

I've mixed up a few batches so far and for me, it's just trying to add enuf water. I keep making it too thick. Once it's thin enough, maybe the consistency of pancake batter, I add some peat moss, and/or green moss, some kind of organic stuff to thicken it back up a bit. You can get very creative at this point -[/FONT]

I found your recipe interesting in that all the other ones I have seen on the net are for a much stiffer mix. Did you just pour it onto the flat surface and let it harden? The one's I have used in my vivariums are much thicker and mixed with peat moss, coco fiber, sphagnum moss. It was applied stiff and would immediately hold on a vertical surface. If fact this was my test to see if the clay mix was correct. I would set the tank back up so the clay was vertical and give it a few minutes. If it held then I would lay it back down and let it set/rest for a few hours. I did use horizontal lines of foam on my 40 vert as additional support for the clay background which was applied all around the foam planter locations.

[Indyaquarist]

Thanks Guppygal! Looking great.

[guppygal]

I found your recipe interesting in that all the other ones I have seen on the net are for a much stiffer mix. Did you just pour it onto the flat surface and let it harden? The one's I have used in my vivariums are much thicker and mixed with peat moss, coco fiber, sphagnum moss. It was applied stiff and would immediately hold on a vertical surface. If fact this was my test to see if the clay mix was correct. I would set the tank back up so the clay was vertical and give it a few minutes. If it held then I would lay it back down and let it set/rest for a few hours. I did use horizontal lines of foam on my 40 vert as additional support for the clay background which was applied all around the foam planter locations.

To be honest, my clay recipe is a lot like my cooking - a lil bit o' this, a dab o' that. I mix the clay to a consistency that I can actually work with (removing all the lumps), and then I bulk it back up again with peat moss or whatever organics I happen to have on hand. I use eggcrate on the back of the tank for support. I mash it on there, nice n thick, and then I'll press in pieces of cork so that the clay bulges up between the pieces. After that, I'll place some spike moss down, mist it real well, then cover the whole shebang with glass and/or plastic. I put a light over it to keep the humidity in and maybe the moss will take root. I try to let it dry slowly, but if it cracks, I just wet it again and it's good to go.

BTW, I use cat litter for the clay, though I've heard that red art clay works just as well -

[MikeM670]

Yes I'm using clay cat litter for my backgrounds. I have read that if you use too much organic material in the clay, as it breaks down leaving small holes it will destabilize. I have no experience with this since mine have only been up for two to three months.

I don't let my clay dry out. I mist the walls everyday to keep them moist and I have algae, moss and other stuff growing in the walls now.

[guppygal]

IMO, this is more like the frogs' natural environment and the fact that the moss and other plants take to the clay so readily really rocks!

This is my first shot at it and it looks pretty good. I've had the clay in the tank for several months now. I just finished planting recently and things are taking off. I'm getting ready to start my 29g vertical tonight, if I'm lucky. I'm very tickled how quickly it all went together.

I'm also tickled that the solar fan works like a charm and keeps the glass clear - sweet!!

[Grrrit]

I can't wait to see! I've ben working on two 29's with rockwalls. They're slowly coming together