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    Default 15 Gallon Vertical Build

    The following is a step by step chain of events into the creation of 15 gallon vertical tank build, which will hopefully one day contain some new dart frogs.


    I created this on a spur of the moment decision so foaming and background silicone work were not photographed.



    Materials for the build include:

    • One 15 gallon fish tank
    • One can of Great Stuff foaming crack filler
    • Three tubes of GE Silicone II in black color
    • Three pieces of cork round
    • Small planters/pots
    • One bag of Zilla Jungle Mix substrate
    • One handful of New Zealand Sphagnum Moss
    • One bag of Plantation Soil
    • One sheet of 1/8 inch glass pre-cut for door and front sections
    • One aquarium top flexi hinge (black)
    • One aquarium top plastic back section (clear)
    • One door handle
    • 6 inches of magnetic tape
    • One bag of Hydroballs
    • One 24 x 24 inch window screen material
    • Misc plants pulled from another vivarium


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    To begin, I would like to note that this build is not complete since I am still in the process of finding a 5/8" glass drill bit for the installation of the Mist King misting system nozzle.
    This vivarium will have one misting nozzle installed and be supplied from a Mist King misting system operating on an existing vivarium.




    1. Tank was cleaned with Zoo Med Wipe Out 1

    2. I attached several pieces of cork round to the glass with GE Silicone II.
    I already had planned in my head what I wanted to create and where each piece should go.
    The placement of each piece can not be changed once you start foaming in the tank so you must pick your locations wisely. Placing the pieces around the tank and stepping back to view will help you in deciding what appeals to you.
    Walk away and then come back to view a few times to really get an idea of what this will end up looking like.


    3. After all cork rounds were in place and dry, I added in some pots for planting and siliconed them into place. I began foaming with Great Stuff around each piece of cork and the pots. Great Stuff expands almost 50 percent so build the foam up to half the height you want it.

    4. I then foamed over the other sections with thin layers and allowed to dry for about one hour before building the background higher with more thin layers. Each time waiting an hour before adding another layer.
    If you put it on really thick, it will take quite some time to dry completely.

    5. I allow to completely dry for 24 hours before beginning to carve out the excess and start sculpting in cracks and ledges.
    If you come across a section not completely dry, you may want to stop and allow that section to dry before continuing.
    When creating cracks and crevasses, carve out much larger than you want the end result since the following application of silicone and substrate will quickly fill and hide the landscaping features if not exagerated enough.


    6. Next comes the application of GE Silicone II which will require you to have plenty of disposable rubber gloves on hand.
    You need to cover all the foam with a thick layer of silicone and its best to apply in sections. Change out your gloves often and you will be able to work the silicone into crack and crevases without frustration. Allowing the gloves to get too built up with the silicone will only make it harder to manipulate the silicone since it will be building up on the gloves.


    7. Once you have the silicone completely covering all the places you need to have the substrate attached, pour the substrate on heavy and press it in firmly wearing rubber gloves. You can never pour on enough is the motto here. Excess will be removed later so pour it on. Also, be creative and use different substrates to create color changes on the background.
    I used Zilla Jungle Mix on most but also finely diced up some New Zealand Sphagnum Moss to add to sections.

    8. Allow the above to dry for about 24 hours. Once dry, flip the tank and shake out the excess. I usually brush off the background with a medium stiff brush to remove more excess and detail cracks. If sections are missed, just add more silicone and press in more substrate. You can also use small amounts of Gorilla Glue to do touch up vise the silicone.
    I then wet the entire background down to wash off more excess. I pour this out and then detail the tank to continuing into the planting stage.





    9. The next step was to build a front.

    a. Install the lower piece of glass
    • The lower section of glass is installed to hold back the substrate and water, I siliconed the inside lip of the tank and allowed this to dry. This process will ensure water doesn't leak out through what was once the tanks top edge. I tested the water retaining ability of the newly siliconed section and of course it leaked. I added more silicone to the area that was leaking, allowed to dry, and tested again.
    • Once I knew it wasn't going to leak, I installed my lower glass. To do this I ran a bead of silicone around the section where the glass would sit and then pressed the glass piece in. Once completely pressed into place, I allowed this to dry and then cut away the excess that was pushed out during installation. Let it dry and then trim it out since wiping it off during installion of the glass will just smear all over and give you more areas to clean up once dry.
    • I then added a bead of silicone around the outside of the glass edge to ensure the glass would stay in place and ensure the glass had a water tight seal.




    b. Installing the door
    • The glass door is attached to the bottom section with the flexiable hinge from a glass aquarium top.


    • The top of the door is attached to the tank frame with magnetic tape which was attached to both the glass and tanks edge to keep the door closed.




    10. The top vented section was then created by cutting out plastic and siliconing in a piece of screen material. I then siliconed that into place where it would take up all of the open top area above the door.
    This may change over time to a metal section of screen with no-see-um bug screen attached since I am only somewhat satisfied with the results of the plastic I installed.



    11. The plants I used for this build came from my Dendrobates leucomelas vivarium. A bromeliad pup, and two Cryptanthus pups were placed into the pots I had foamed in and a cutting from a creeping fig was set into a crack.







    12. Next was the finish work of adding the hydroballs, the substrate screen whic I used some window screen material, and then the addition of the substrate.

    13. Tossed in some leaf liter and some random accent materials such as a jungle pod and a coconut hut, and thats all she wrote.



    I will allow this to grow in and add more creeping fig as I upkeep my other vivarium.
    I will also adding in some vine material od a branch to provide more climbing fixtures for the frogs.


    Hope some of this will be helpful to you when creating your next viv.


    Don
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: 15 Gallon Vertical Build

    Great job don!

    You can definitely see the experience here.
    Looks fantastic!

    What type of dart are you looking to put in here? =)

    -Kevin

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    What a great looking tank!!! Love it!
    2.0.3 Hyla versicolor "Eastern Gray Tree Frogs"
    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

    0.0.3 Dendrobates auratus "Turquoise and Bronze"
    0.0.1 Anaxyrus fowleri "Fowler's Toad"



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    Quote Originally Posted by nos187 View Post
    Great job don!

    You can definitely see the experience here.
    Looks fantastic!

    What type of dart are you looking to put in here? =)

    -Kevin
    Not sure yet, but probably a pair of Dendrobates ventrimaculatus 'Understory Line'. Josh's Frogs usually has them in stock.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Great choice don, i have heard really good things about them.

    Cant wait to see some frogs in there =)

    -Kevin



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    Don, I'm out of superlatives for your work. And this step by step should be made permanent for others to see...

    E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownonfire View Post
    Don, I'm out of superlatives for your work. And this step by step should be made permanent for others to see...

    E.
    Thanks Eric.

    Now if I can see how much Cheri likes the LED lighting from AAAFrogs.
    The 20 Long top they have should fit perfectly.

    The magnetic tape seem to being working fine but I did have to replace the magnets tape since it wasn't adhering to the glass well.

    I will hopefully soon add the run down on the glass drilling for misting nozzle installation too.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Quote Originally Posted by nos187 View Post
    Great choice don, i have heard really good things about them.

    Cant wait to see some frogs in there =)

    -Kevin


    I'll have to build a net around the tank for these since they are great escape artist and will leap out of the tank at random as some here have experienced.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Awsome Don!!

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    I wouldn't mind living in that myself. How much is rent?

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    I decided the top screen section just wasn't doing it for me. I also decided to add the Mist King nozzle in through the screen section.

    I used screen frame purchased at Lowes (under 2 dollars) and the bought the corners (also under 2 dollars) and cut and built the follow addition.

    I then trimmed the screen to fit the nozzle and tightened in the nozzle.
    Added a stop valve on the incoming water line and then connected a "T" Connection to the output line on the Mist King pump.

    Looks cleaner, except for the gray corners on the screen frame, but that is all they carried for color besides white.





    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Great job! Don you really did a good job walking through that. And the explanation of the door was good too. I will be making 8 doors for my 10gallon tanks im working on. If you decide to redo your screen/upper section please fill me in on how you did it. That's the only thing I'm lost on for mine lol. I dig the ledge and foam scaping as well. Really cool.

    Oh and, are those the monkey pods BJ has to offer? I ordered a bunch of all of the other kinds and am curious about them.

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    They are the Monkey Pods from Black Jungle. Its hit or miss on them holding water but they do make nice hides and accents. The ones embedded in the foam hold water well since the foam seals them off.

    Now for some of my thoughts on this viv.
    I am probably going to order the AAAFrogs LED lighting for this viv, but I did come across locally a Saltwater Tank LED lighting system that would fit across two tanks if I did a sister tank to match. Price was sweet but not sure if the color spectrum would be best for a viv. We know the AAAFrogs one are.


    Next I'm thinking about additional plants for this viv since its going to need some coverage and vines.
    I'm looking at the following as options (Suggestions/Comments?):
    Neoregelia "Blushing Tiger
    Orthophytum saxicola
    Cryptanthus 'Cafe au lait'
    Korean Rock Fern
    Biophytum sp
    Adiantum caudatum - Trailing Maidenhair
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Don,

    I love the monkey pods they are great places for the frogs to hide in. Plus they are real interesting to people. They always ask what they are.

    As for plants. I think creeping fig is a must. Its just about indestructible and will fill the back walls up nicely. Some of the other vines tend to get stringy. I think the leaves of the fig are just the right size for the viv's.
    1.2.0 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Azureus'
    1.1.0 Dendrobates Lamasi 'Orange'
    1.1.0 Dendrobates Ventrimaculatus 'Understory Line'
    0.3.0 Dendrobates leucomelas

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    Hey Mike, I have a few cuttings in the viv, trying to get the roots to grab the wall.

    Love creeping fig.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    I use one light for my sister 10gals and it works nicely. 18" bulb

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    I'll have to build a net around the tank for these since they are great escape artist and will leap out of the tank at random as some here have experienced.
    I have no idea what your talking about!
    1.2.0 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Azureus'
    1.1.0 Dendrobates Lamasi 'Orange'
    1.1.0 Dendrobates Ventrimaculatus 'Understory Line'
    0.3.0 Dendrobates leucomelas

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    I may or may not know what I'm talking about!

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    Great build Don! As always it's a pleasure to see your work.
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    Don, I want to thank you for posting this fantastic photo diary. I doubly appreciate the fact that you put the photos in your albums here on frogforum. A lot of the time people post photo diaries using photo albums on places like flickr, but they delete or move the photos months afterwards, leaving an "empty" thread behind on forums (this happens to all forums, not just frogforum.net). So 2x thank you!
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    Don, what thickness of glass did you use? A month back I picked up a 6 foot strip of acrylic hinge. Its 3/32.


    And john clare, did you get the glass cut for your kits locally. I'm having a difficult time finding a shop around us.
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