Im giving Aaron a shot with the LEDs so I'll let you know how it goes. Being that my frog rack is in a closet heat is a big deal to me so I'm hopeful that I can shave off a couple of degrees especially on the smaller tanks. He is also custom fitting it so I can hide the misting tubes on top. I hope this works. If it does, its not that expensive compared to other lighting options and it will have a super clean look. I'll make a thread on them when they arrive and I'll keep you posted how the plants do over several months.