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    Curb71
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    update. good and bad. mostly bad.
    A store bought "tadpole/frog food I bought killed every tadpole I had. About 23 of them.
    I must of put to many in and the next morning they were all belly up laying on the bottom of the fish bowl. I did have 5 toadlets that are now in a terrarium with a coco fiber substrate and a water dish. they have been eating expensive fruit flies and the biggest one, tad, has started taking down small crickets. I have 3 other little toadlets that are doing fine chomping down fruit flies.

    However one toadlet I named baby is real small and skinny and has never ate anything. I've tried everything but not even an attempt. I finally got a flash light and a magnifying glass to see if there was something wrong with her face and it doesnt look good. I'll attach some pictures and hopefully I can get some advice. water and a q-tip doesnt seem to "wash it off". I think she never fully formed or has a disease or something. I only see one eye which still looks more tadpole than toadlet. I don't see a mouth or her left eye and the stuff is all over her face/neck. I'm not sure what to do since she has been out of the water for just over a week and never ate a thing. Please help!
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    I can see the left eye in the last photo, it's just mostly covered with whatever that stuff is. It could be algae or fungus or something else. Someone more knowledgeable will have to tell you what that is. If it's stopping her from being able to eat, time is important though, since they don't have much body mass to fall back on at such a young age.

    If she was mine, and a vet was not an immediate option, right or wrong, I would probably take her in one hand (hold all your fingertips together with her in between, facing out) and take a soft damp cloth like a cotton diaper firmly in the other hand and try to rub it off. I don't know if a Q-tip would be too abrasive and possibly scratch the eye. The way I look at it, if she can't eat, she's going to die anyway, so there isn't much to lose by trying to help. You might want to wait for other responses and see if I'm way off base though.

    It's a bummer about your tadpoles, but if you think about it, most tadpoles in the wild don't live to see adulthood either. There's a reason toads lay hundreds of eggs at once! If you help 4 or 5 toads out of 25 live to see adulthood, that's better odds than they would have seen in the wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicodimus22 View Post
    It's a bummer about your tadpoles, but if you think about it, most tadpoles in the wild don't live to see adulthood either. There's a reason toads lay hundreds of eggs at once! If you help 4 or 5 toads out of 25 live to see adulthood, that's better odds than they would have seen in the wild.
    you're right about that part for sure. I went back today with boiled lettuce to see if they were still alive I could maybe help them out. It was the first time I'd been back for about 6 weeks and it dried up and they were all dead. NONE of them made it past the tadpole stage or escaped alive . so like you said, thousands of eggs and looks like 4-5 survivors. here's a before and after pic of where I caught them.
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    It is a man made concrete "area" with about a 2.5' tall wall and it only had a inch or two of water from the start. all the water dried up and so did they.
    Don't want to get to far off topic though, I got a baby toadlet that needs help! let the advice flow peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curb71 View Post
    However one toadlet I named baby is real small and skinny and has never ate anything. I've tried everything but not even an attempt. I finally got a flash light and a magnifying glass to see if there was something wrong with her face and it doesnt look good. I'll attach some pictures and hopefully I can get some advice. water and a q-tip doesnt seem to "wash it off". I think she never fully formed or has a disease or something. I only see one eye which still looks more tadpole than toadlet. I don't see a mouth or her left eye and the stuff is all over her face/neck. I'm not sure what to do since she has been out of the water for just over a week and never ate a thing. Please help!
    Any updates on this toadlet? I've been wondering about it all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicodimus22 View Post
    Any updates on this toadlet? I've been wondering about it all day.
    Yes actually. I took her out and tried what you said but it didnt want to come off even with a wet q-tip. I decided to get our out of the coco fiber terrarium thinking that stuff on her face could be from that substrate and the 4 other toadlets were just hoping and climbing on her and the fat one tad was starting to look at her like a meal.

    I went and got a couple hand fulls of rocks about the size of the toad and cleaned and boiled them and put her in a small critter tote with water almost up to the surface of all the rocks. she finally started moving around a little more later that day that forced her in and out of the water a lot. the stuff started coming off her face and later that night I noticed the face had cleared up a lot.

    This morning I checked her out and her face looked great. looked normal. still so skinny it was a surprise she was alive. I put a fruit fly in there and she actually made a attempt. followed it a little, struck at it and missed by a mile. But at least then I knew she had a working tongue and mouth and appetite! I changed the rocks around so there were only a few small ones sticking out of the water and the fruit fly could no longer climb up the side of the cage and leave cause it was stranded ontop of a small rock in the middle of the cage surrounded by water. baby swam over and climbed up and after a couple tries got the fly and took it down. Maybe I'm crazy, but I think I saw a tiny little smile after that and she already looks normal instead of anorexic. first meal since removed from the water 10 days ago. sitting up like a healthy little toadlet with her head up high which is also a first.

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    Awesome!

    Time to fatten it up!

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    a sad update...
    baby gave up today. only had 1 fruit fly in the 15 days out of water and that must of been enough to through in the towel. I always had doubts since she came out of the water. she always looked a lot more tadpole like then the other toadlets. she was always to weak and never seemed to form perfectly. R.I.P. little baby

    So now Im down to 4. Tad who is a cow and the other 3, all of which are doing great. Here's a video I made yesterday of Tad having a fly.
    YouTube - ‪tad eating a fruit fly‬‏
    And here's Tad in 1080p!
    YouTube - ‪sdafg‬‏

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    I'm sorry The other 4 are looking good though.
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    Sorry to hear that. At least the other ones seem to be doing well!

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    Was that The Cure I heard? Nice video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat The Unloved View Post
    Was that The Cure I heard? Nice video!
    sure was you sure know your Cure. Or have Shazaam.

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