Howdy!!

[Methos75]

Alright I am long time Herp keeper, with over 30 years experience now and while I have keep Gators, monitors, Turtles, you name it I have never kept any form of Amphibian before and I have been looking into getting a Fantasy frog as my first. and to that end I have just a few short questions. I have a dedicated Herp room where I maintain temps at 85 degrees during the day and 77 at night and humidity at 70%, would I need to still maintain provide a outside heat source or is my ambient tempos sufficient? Same question with Humidity, outside providing a water dish would I need to mist if humidity is consistent at 70 percent?

And most importantly, where do you guys suggest going for a quality Animal and do any have compelling arguments pointing me towards an ornate, albino, etc?

[LilyPad]

If your humidity is at 70%, you shouldn't HAVE to mist, but if their skin seems dry, it doesn't hurt. I personally love the ornates, I've seen some really pretty albinos too though. As for where to go, someone else will have to help you there! I just have tree frogs and I didn't buy them

[Baelari]

The temps and humidity sounds about right. As for species of frogs, cranwellis tend to turn brown as they mature, so if you want a colorful frog, get an ornata maybe? If you like the horns, maybe a cornuta would be nice. I just bought my baby cranwelli at petco, but I think Jeff Kennedy's site has some nice looking frogs.

Store | Jelas Phat Phibs

[Methos75]

Actually looked at that site last night and really think I will go there, my Petsmart has a Green Pacman Frog and what they cliam is a Albino that looks brown to me. One the plus side, their $1 per Gal tank sale starts this weekend, so I'll get a nice tank for him.

[DVirginiana]

Glad you decided to get a frog! If you're getting it from petsmart, just be aware that if it is a baby, the green one may be a cranwelli, even if they are selling it as an ornate.

DARN, why couldn't they have that dollar a gallon sale going on a few weeks ago when I was looking to upsize one of my snake's cages!

You should post pics when you get your new frog home

[Methos75]

Any major differences between the cranwelli and Ornates, from Research it seems the Ornates get bigger and I want a big one lol

[artes]

Seriously, they're doing that sell again this weekend?! AWESOME!

You should enjoy the world of pacman frogs - I sure do. Toadstool is an awesome froggie with such personality. I just got a new albino one a couple days ago who actually likes being held. I think the world might be ending.

[Mushrooms]

Any major differences between the cranwelli and Ornates, from Research it seems the Ornates get bigger and I want a big one lol

Dont quote me on it but the Oranates do grow a little larger, and their colours stay more vibrant through out their life. Also from what ive read of aother owners the ornates have a far more voracious appetite.

[artes]

Mushrooms speaks the truth.

[pac]

I have a female ornate she is very argessive she bite me twice cranweli turn to be brown besides albinos if i were you i would get an ornate baby i supposed to get one around next week or so .you have to watch for pac man tags at petsmart because it may say ornata but its really a green cranweli .good luck hope he does good for you .

[Methos75]

Seriously, they're doing that sell again this weekend?! AWESOME!

You should enjoy the world of pacman frogs - I sure do. Toadstool is an awesome froggie with such personality. I just got a new albino one a couple days ago who actually likes being held. I think the world might be ending.

They are here in LA, not sure if the sales are staggered or not or all nation wide at the sametime.

[pac]

Artes i had my albino for 2 yrs he loves to be held sometimes but i dont handle frogs that much

[frogmike]

In Alabama, every tank is $1 per gallon in every pet store, and it has been that way forever. Tops and heat pads are a bit pricy though! I have found in my years of reptile and amphibian keeping that pacs are a little less hearty than people say. the setup has to be just right for them to survive. I like to get them when they are really young so that they haven't been in the poor environment that is supplied by the pet stores long enough to feel the efects of the cold dry climate. Oh and they don't use calcium on they're crickets, what little crickets they are given.