Quote Originally Posted by clownonfire View Post
I can't speak entirely for Valerie, but from our discussions, I know she would not get any if they didn't come with CITES papers. It's a position I respect.
I tend to figure the ones in the hobby are legit as the prices while high are not high enough nor is the demand great enough for most importers to risk being caught with a CITES violation. It isn't like we are talking about animals in the 1000$ plus range like certain snakes and lizards or even 500$+ frogs like certain occasionally smuggled dart frogs.

Prices in the US are cheaper than in Canada, not by much though. The offers have been ranging from $35-$45. For Ornate hoppers, in the higher range. Weren't they being sold on kingsnake for $100/each a month or two ago?

Yes. 100$ each is on the high side for gottlebei in the states at the moment but I have seen some for sale for that. If I was wanting gottlebei in the states I would wait till I could get a better deal than that as I am pretty confident I could do better and do not anticipate them becoming completely unavailable for a while though I suppose you never know.