I want another frog!

[LilyPad]

I have only had Paddy, my gray tree frog, for about a week and a half now.

I really want another frog to put in with her!

Now that the tank is set up so nice and I have done a ton of research on caring for gray tree frog's, and gotten tons of help from here, I really want an addition. I heard that they are social and usually do well in pairs or groups.

The thing is, Paddy is so new and still adjusting to her ever changing vivarium (done changing for a while now!) how long should I give her to adjust before making an addition? Should they be about the same size? How long do I quarantine a new one? Do you feed them separately then? Paddy is a bottomless pit and will eat anything I put in there.

I'm pretty sure all I want is another female gray tree frog, but is there another species that would mix well with her if I can't find one at my area pet stores?

TIA

[Groffy]

I am no expert and I always research before acquiring a new friend. However, I mix my species after making sure they will be compatible, especially with the habitat needs. Right now I have two hearty species together, the Whites tree frog and Peacock. I have three Whites and now only one Peocock. My oldest Peocock died about six months ago. I had her for five years. She was an adult when I got her.

I also combined my drogs with walking tiger leg tree frogs. Unfortunately, one escaped and it's partner died of a broken heart soon after that, and even sadder, I found the escapee in my laundry room, but I was too late.

Finally, I put two Cuban tree frogs in the vivarium to find out they were not a good mix. Honestly I bought the frogs impulsively and shortly found out my other frogs did not like them. They climbed up high in the habitat and did not come down until they were out. I also found out that the Cuban frogs needed an slightly wetter and warmer environment. Needless to say, this did not work out, lesson learned.

Now I always research and my friend who is a biologist told me to quarantine my new frogs for at least a month before placing them in my vivarium with other frogs and after doing so, watch the frogs closely for the next few weeks as needed.

[bshmerlie]

You'll find through adequate research on this forum as well as all other frog related forum out there that mixing species is highly frowned upon and is just not a good idea for beginners. As I'm sure you've read frogs need specific environmental conditions met and even if two different species live in the same habitat in the wild they are not forced to live in close proximity to each other. Each frog has its own level of toxicity that its own species can live with. Introduce another species and they slowly poison each other. Or one frog is more bold or more dominate and out competes the less bold species for food or space. The less dominate frog may feel slightly intimidated and not live a normal active life and then wither away. Keep them separate and learn about your frogs in their normal routine not something forced upon them.
I had one lone Red Eye for a couple of years, then I added others. Ive learned so much more about them as they interact with each other as they would with their own kind in nature. Remember to always quarantine new frogs for at least 30 days preferably longer. It would also be best to spend some more time just caring for the one frog before you venture into a group of them.

[LilyPad]

I was reading about it all last night. Stuff I read says that it is good to mix green tree frogs with gray tree frost as they're normally together int he wild. BUT if you read about green tree frog care, it says a grays will dominate and eat all the food.

Soooo... When I'm ready, it will definitely be another grays. Thanks for the advice

[UncleChester]

They should be the same size- anything that moves and a gray treefrog thinks will fit in its mouth is something that it will try to eat.

In my experience, Grays are not in any way social. Not that they are anti-social either though, my two adults pretty much ignore one another all the time (the exception is Waldos futile attempts to woo the uninterested Fatty). Similar experience with wild ones outside of breeding time, they will sit on each other, but they also sit on rocks.

Male Gray's sound awesome, I love it when Waldo is trilling. They will call at night too which might be disturbing if they have to be close to your bedroom, so if that's a problem go for a female I suppose.

I would also discourage mixing species unless you are an experienced keeper. But don't let this stop you from getting another species- you can always make room for more tanks.

[LilyPad]

Oh, I'm sure eventually there will be another vivarium and another species LOL Looking through these other frog pics, there are some really beautiful ones that I would like. I like the idea of a male calling, but I'm not sure if it would bother me at night, that's something I'd have to think about. We live right by a pond though, so that's all I hear at night anyways! LOL

[Groffy]

You'll find through adequate research on this forum as well as all other frog related forum out there that mixing species is highly frowned upon and is just not a good idea for beginners. As I'm sure you've read frogs need specific environmental conditions met and even if two different species live in the same habitat in the wild they are not forced to live in close proximity to each other. Each frog has its own level of toxicity that its own species can live with. Introduce another species and they slowly poison each other. Or one frog is more bold or more dominate and out competes the less bold species for food or space. The less dominate frog may feel slightly intimidated and not live a normal active life and then wither away. Keep them separate and learn about your frogs in their normal routine not something forced upon them.
I had one lone Red Eye for a couple of years, then I added others. Ive learned so much more about them as they interact with each other as they would with their own kind in nature. Remember to always quarantine new frogs for at least 30 days preferably longer. It would also be best to spend some more time just caring for the one frog before you venture into a group of them.

Thanks for your advice. I did research the two species I have together and I observe them closely. They both live hearty active lives and get plenty of food. I do believe the White are mor dominant, but the frogs still interact well together. I will check more into the toxins and how that may affect my frogs.

[clownonfire]

I was reading about it all last night. Stuff I read says that it is good to mix green tree frogs with gray tree frost as they're normally together int he wild. BUT if you read about green tree frog care, it says a grays will dominate and eat all the food.

Soooo... When I'm ready, it will definitely be another grays. Thanks for the advice

Adding another gray seems like a great idea. Although not necessarily social, I think it will be a great way to really deepen your knowledge on the species. This is such a great way of ending up being quite specialized and making sure that everything they need is met, and you are surely on your way with everything I have been reading.

[LilyPad]

Adding another gray seems like a great idea. Although not necessarily social, I think it will be a great way to really deepen your knowledge on the species. This is such a great way of ending up being quite specialized and making sure that everything they need is met, and you are surely on your way with everything I have been reading.

Thanks Eric, I have been trying hard to make sure I read up on everything there is to know, there is nothing quite like hands on experience though. Im a pretty serious person when it comws to caring for living things!

[clownonfire]

Thanks Eric, I have been trying hard to make sure I read up on everything there is to know, there is nothing quite like hands on experience though. Im a pretty serious person when it comws to caring for living things!

It's been a pleasure reading your progression, Amy.