Well he's 16+something years old. I did get him in '93 but he had been in the store for a long time and wasn't selling (I worked in that store and was one of the people who cleaned his cage so I was familiar with him and he's been there since before I started), and keep in mind that he was already finished metamorphosized there (that is, he had no residual tadpole tail or anything). So he is really quite old.