Thanks tony. I've heard alot about them throughout my search for the oelemarie. The viv I built for them will be completely done this weekend with all of the final touches. I'll post a build log when its all done. And towards the end of summer I'll begin another viv do keep on stand by for when I come across some oelemarie. I also have 9 vert 10g vivs to finish in the next few weeks for thumbnails. Lots of excitement