Toadlets.

[Deku]

I don't think you got what I was saying. I didn't say "Treat it and release it", I said "don't release it." - Panacur won't kill everything. The commercial treatments most pet owners can get won't kill off some of the more exotic stuff.

There was an incident with a native bird being rehabilitated with non-natives, and catching malaria here in Oklahoma. The bird was released, and because of that there's a high chance that malaria was introduced to the state. This is a disease which can, and does, effect humans as well. There is "Fish tuberculosis" which can jump to humans, and is not easily treated. Any aquatic animals can carry "Fish TB", from what I understand.

It's a moral and ethical issue, that's what I was getting at. And depending upon your local laws, it can be a legal issue as well.

mk so in your opinion what should I do? I don't want to kill them.

[pac]

I would release them i think it is ok but you should have not raised and picked up the parents if you plan on killing them but i would release them.

[Deku]

I would release them i think it is ok but you should have not raised and picked up the parents if you plan on killing them but i would release them.

I'm not going to kill them. lol. I picked up the parents on planning for raising them and releasing a great amount of them back in the wild as a mini-project but some "activist" are telling me that it has an adverse side effect because they may now carry some pathogens and whatnot. It's kinda confusing--- first they talk about saving the planet and helping the ecosystem, then they say its not good to help them breed? lol. Sorry its just mind puzzling.

Anywho I have a few ideas of what I can do--- but I rather know what people think I should do.

[Wormwood]

They are so young they should be fine if you release them, it's doubtful they'll have anything. They are very right though, any caught animal released back into the wild after any length of time in captivity risks spreading some bacteria or microb picked up while inside or from food provided to them. Fish food for example.

You've already said it yourself, they where exposed somehow to some parasidic worm already. Who knows where that came from, the parents, water brought in from inside, or some thing else introduced during the growth cycle.

And please get off this kick that you are "helping them breed", helping them breed would have been leaving them where they where and letting the natural cycle take it's place. Breeding two adult toads that are free of parasites and other nasties is another matter.

If you do keep them outdoors in a tank be sure it's sealed and not just with some filmsy mesh top either. Any racoon or opposum worth it's weight will break into that with ease to get at the fruit and the toadlets. They'd have a better chance in the wild then as sitting ducks in a little tank.

[Deku]

They are so young they should be fine if you release them, it's doubtful they'll have anything. They are very right though, any caught animal released back into the wild after any length of time in captivity risks spreading some bacteria or microb picked up while inside or from food provided to them. Fish food for example.

You've already said it yourself, they where exposed somehow to some parasidic worm already. Who knows where that came from, the parents, water brought in from inside, or some thing else introduced during the growth cycle.

And please get off this kick that you are "helping them breed", helping them breed would have been leaving them where they where and letting the natural cycle take it's place. Breeding two adult toads that are free of parasites and other nasties is another matter.

If you do keep them outdoors in a tank be sure it's sealed and not just with some filmsy mesh top either. Any racoon or opposum worth it's weight will break into that with ease to get at the fruit and the toadlets. They'd have a better chance in the wild then as sitting ducks in a little tank.

Well like I said I guess I was misinformed in general. We used to do this a lot for bio class when I was in school. Teacher told us and I quote "its helping them get a jump start because in nature they would easily become prey to other many animals". So my intention wasn't to hurt anything. Just to have some fun at a project I once did in high school. I didn't think it'd cause any problems for the toads themselves or for nature...
The parasitic nematodes were completely killed off. They were introduced through some pond water I believe.. From the very same pond I took the adults from. i had gone there and taken a large water sample

P.s. alot of people where I live basically do the same project where they take in wild tadpoles and watch em grow and then let em go.

[Rat The Unloved]

What would I do?
Never take on an animal that I don't plan to keep, or respectfully re-home. If I do rehab or catch/release, I follow strict guidelines, involving NEVER mixing wild and "captive" or "pet trade" creatures. If any animal becomes sick, deformed or disabled, it is treated by a professional (and given a clean bill of health) or it is not released at all.

In the case of the tadpoles I have (10-ish toads, 4 ranids)?
I've taken on a small enough number to either care for all of them myself, or offer them to other local keepers with a similar level of dedication. I would suggest that you contact local REPTILE-specific stores (if you have them) and tell them that you may have excess (XYZ breed) toadlets, which you are looking to ethically re-home. If they aren't willing to pay, ask if they're willing to trade for crickets/supplies. If they aren't willing to do store credit, offer them for free. Offer the same deal/s to local keepers.

Here's the other thing: Some people don't care, and irresponsibly contaminate the environment. It's horrible, it happens on a daily basis, and sometimes does enough damage to really get some guts in a twist (re: snakehead, piranha, introduction of malaria). It's up to each person to decide if they wanna be a "good guy" or a "bad guy" or a "chaotic neutral" guy. Ask for advice, follow it, don't follow it - it's ultimately on you.

[Deku]

What would I do?
Never take on an animal that I don't plan to keep, or respectfully re-home. If I do rehab or catch/release, I follow strict guidelines, involving NEVER mixing wild and "captive" or "pet trade" creatures. If any animal becomes sick, deformed or disabled, it is treated by a professional (and given a clean bill of health) or it is not released at all.

In the case of the tadpoles I have (10-ish toads, 4 ranids)?
I've taken on a small enough number to either care for all of them myself, or offer them to other local keepers with a similar level of dedication. I would suggest that you contact local REPTILE-specific stores (if you have them) and tell them that you may have excess (XYZ breed) toadlets, which you are looking to ethically re-home. If they aren't willing to pay, ask if they're willing to trade for crickets/supplies. If they aren't willing to do store credit, offer them for free. Offer the same deal/s to local keepers.

Here's the other thing: Some people don't care, and irresponsibly contaminate the environment. It's horrible, it happens on a daily basis, and sometimes does enough damage to really get some guts in a twist (re: snakehead, piranha, introduction of malaria). It's up to each person to decide if they wanna be a "good guy" or a "bad guy" or a "chaotic neutral" guy. Ask for advice, follow it, don't follow it - it's ultimately on you.

Frankly the only thing they have gotten was those gill worms. It turned out to be gill worms. It apparently was through the pond water. I killed them off via a few medications intended for fish. But works just as good on amphibians. Because it's a pretty strong dose to begin with. Secondly they're in the aquatic or where... and they had opening gills as well as mouth parts and a permeable skin. meaning better absorption of the meds. I do recall seeing some of the dead worms too when I did that water change. I'ved treated them with medications intended for fish but mainly intended to kill parasites, bacteria and such. Even ones made for turtles that are supposed to kill stuff thats pretty nasty.

I'm thinking of just selling them off to a few petstores I know and the rest I can see if some friends want them(they're okay with caring for animals-- I visit). As well as I can sell some online. And ill keep a small amount for myself.

I guess it's not that bad of a thing though... Least I learnt something out of it as well as gained some more experience with delicate beings. I hear tadpoles can be delicate.. Not so sure on that-- since the whole worm thing got me thinking--- how the heck are these delicate?

They never came in contact with anything captive or from a petstore. The most they came in contact with was some pond snails that I gathered from the very same pond/creek in the very same day I gathered the adults. The adults never came in contact with the captive bred toad. So yeah. Pretty sure they don't got anything. I figured I could release just a small amount of them back if anything. Right where I found the parents. A great deal of them did survive though as well as a great deal did hatch. Only 50-60dead taddies died out of the ones that hatched. Atleast a 3/4ths hatched the other ones just turned white and I had to remove them.

Btw filtration does work for taddies if you have it set on low and you're taddies are big enough atleast the size of a dime. Not one got stuck in the filter. Because I put a sponge in there too to make sure nothing sucks it up.