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    Hey guys. I was wondering if I can put my toadlets in a large rubbermaid outside so they can eat wild insects. I was thinking I could attract small wild insects to the container. Like maybe aphids or wild fruitflies or even springtails. I got some d.hydei but I read they're hard to breed. Plus I only have 3flies left. D: Any ideas?

    I'm hoping to release a great deal of them soon but just wanting to keep a large number like maybe 20 to get them to grow a bit bigger. Just in case if I ended up keeping 5 and said like almost all of them died cause of whatever reason I'd still have some left over. Since toadlets are quite unpredictable

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    Kurt
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    You can put a slice of banana in the enclosure to atract fruit flies. Make sure the enclosure is not in direct sunlight. Also the cage should not be glass and the mess on it should ve small enough to prevent escape, while at the same time allowing fruit flies in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt View Post
    You can put a slice of banana in the enclosure to atract fruit flies. Make sure the enclosure is not in direct sunlight. Also the cage should not be glass and the mess on it should ve small enough to prevent escape, while at the same time allowing fruit flies in.
    Okay that sounds good. I got a question. I went to another forum but that forum is not about frogs and amphibians so I'm not so sure t heir answer maybe too "keen" on what they said.

    I was told by them that I can't release the toadlets into the wild because its going to introduce bad bacteria into the wild and it maybe illegal where I live. But im pretty sure I was told it wasn't by a few people at a different forum.

    Can they be released into the wild? if not--- my friend has a pond that he can take the toadlets in(the pond is man made and its in his yard) can I release the toadlets in his man made pond?

    I believe that I could release them because they did this as a science project in highschool where we took in a few tadpoles of say toads or bullfrogs then we watched them grow. Then we released them back where we found them.

    Whats your opinion on this? They tell me I should either euthanize them or sell them, or give them away or something like that. But I don't want them to be killed. I rather sell them/give them away or release them where I found them.

    I don't recall being told I can't release them by people on here so I assumed I could. Usually when I can't do something or its not "okay" or its illegal someone in the forum will tell you right off the bat its not a good idea.

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    Rat The Unloved
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    It's a bit tricky, actually. AND you should ALWAYS check laws in your country, state and county. PLEASE, CHECK YOUR LOCAL LAWS. The below is NOT legal advice, but rather based on responsibility and morality.

    1: If you've taken something from the wild, and keep it by itself, you can release it back into the wild.

    2: If you've taken something from the wild, and keep it with OTHER wild stuff, you can release it back into the wild.

    3: If you've taken something from the wild, and keep it with non-native and/or pet trade stuff, be cautious. If it has parasites or disease, DO NOT release it.

    3: If it's from the pet trade (even if it's native), or not native to where you live, DO NOT release it.

    The obvious alternative to euthanasia is to give them (or sell them) or sell them to other local keepers looking for already-raised animals. OR, to build a proper (escape-proof) outdoor enclosure for them.
    Last edited by Rat The Unloved; May 23rd, 2011 at 10:05 PM. Reason: legal clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat The Unloved View Post
    It's a bit tricky, actually. AND you should ALWAYS check laws in your country, state and county. PLEASE, CHECK YOUR LOCAL LAWS. The below is NOT legal advice, but rather based on responsibility and morality.

    1: If you've taken something from the wild, and keep it by itself, you can release it back into the wild.

    2: If you've taken something from the wild, and keep it with OTHER wild stuff, you can release it back into the wild.

    3: If you've taken something from the wild, and keep it with non-native and/or pet trade stuff, be cautious. If it has parasites or disease, DO NOT release it.

    3: If it's from the pet trade (even if it's native), or not native to where you live, DO NOT release it.

    The obvious alternative to euthanasia is to give them (or sell them) or sell them to other local keepers looking for already-raised animals. OR, to build a proper (escape-proof) outdoor enclosure for them.
    I may treat them with panacure and some other stuff even if I don't it may have something. JUST to be safe. Ill treat for general parasites. General fungus, and general bacteria. Then slowly introduce it to wild bacteria from the ponds I gathered the parents.

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    Rat The Unloved
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    I don't think you got what I was saying. I didn't say "Treat it and release it", I said "don't release it." - Panacur won't kill everything. The commercial treatments most pet owners can get won't kill off some of the more exotic stuff.

    There was an incident with a native bird being rehabilitated with non-natives, and catching malaria here in Oklahoma. The bird was released, and because of that there's a high chance that malaria was introduced to the state. This is a disease which can, and does, effect humans as well. There is "Fish tuberculosis" which can jump to humans, and is not easily treated. Any aquatic animals can carry "Fish TB", from what I understand.

    It's a moral and ethical issue, that's what I was getting at. And depending upon your local laws, it can be a legal issue as well.

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    How long do you guys think itll be before the newly metamorphosed(no tails anymore-- but the size of a penny or like 2/3'rds of a penny) grow big enough to eat small to medium sized crickets? I guess more or less... how long is it before they get 1.5inch long or 2inch long?
    Can I speed up growth? When do they get their "colors" in. Like they're all the same colors right now. So you know how some are red, some brown, some mottled, some green and black and yellow, some black, some golden honey, some light yellow, etc. etc. etc.

    When can I expect those colors/patterns to show up?

    Also wonder.. Since one of the parents colors was dark red(crimson-ish but lighter and lesser of it-- just a regular red toad) and the other one was kinda like a bullfrog pattern. Where the top is olive green and the bottom is yellow(no it was a toad with the pattern of a bullfrog. seriously--- I couldn't believe it myself...) What are the chances of expecting some to have bright patterns like really bright reds or the same bullfrog pattern on the male? OR will the toadlets just be a random bunch of colors/patterns?
    Btw. You know that saddle that some of the toads get?

    I.e.
    http://www.fcps.edu/islandcreekes/ec...Toad/atoad.jpg <-------(not as much)

    or like this one :
    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1278/...aff337f422.jpg

    Do all toads get it? or is it just females? Cause I have a toad I think is a female since it never chirps and its fat as heck and has tons of warts that looks like t his:
    http://oksnakes.org/imgUL/american_toad1_5-29-08.jpg

    In body shape. But its more of a mottled brown kinda looks hazelnut-ish will she/he keep that shape? While the male has the same shape as that and he tried to mate. And etc. I'm not a fan of the hump. I won't condemn them for having one. Lol. But just "preference" i guess. I guess since Iam just going to sell them off to a few stores(they wanted me to wait until they're bigger-- atleast like an inch or two in size since they don't carry fruit flies and don't wanna go through that trouble). I guess I could just pick my preference out of the "lot" of them. Ya' know?

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