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    ZachTurner
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    Im completely against under-tank heating for arboreal frogs..
    These guys live in the shrub layer so Im sure others may differ in there opinion..
    The American Green tree frog requires a Temp range is 68-77F during the summer, and a little cooler in the winter.. So Your household temperature should almost be good enough..
    That being said..
    You need a Thermometer if you dont already have one..
    I like the hood.. yes 10-15 watts would be better.. but I dont think incandescent lighting is the way to go.. A nice low watt compact florescent would work much better in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZachTurner View Post
    Im completely against under-tank heating for arboreal frogs..
    These guys live in the shrub layer so Im sure others may differ in there opinion..
    The American Green tree frog requires a Temp range is 68-77F during the summer, and a little cooler in the winter.. So Your household temperature should almost be good enough..
    That being said..
    You need a Thermometer if you dont already have one..
    I like the hood.. yes 10-15 watts would be better.. but I dont think incandescent lighting is the way to go.. A nice low watt compact florescent would work much better in my opinion.
    Thanks, why are you against under-tank heating for tree frogs? And would having the heat lamp and UVB lamp together on the lid block out the ventillation?

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    ZachTurner
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    You should not need a "heat lamp".. unless you live in a cold house most people are able to keep these frogs with little or no out side heating help at all..
    Its only a Ten gallon tank a simple 15watt incandescent or 20-35watt Compact Fluorescent Lamp should emit enough heat all by its lonesome. They are Nocturnal so little to no UVB is required.
    Just Monitor your Temps Closely. Im sure the temps are not that far out of your range..

    As far as under-tank heating for arboreal frogs goes.. Despite its usual lack of effectiveness given the need for tall enclosures.. In my opinion it also messes with their natural behavior. Arboreal frogs use their vertical habitat to regulate their body temperature naturally moving "to ground" or under brush to cool down.. being a nocturnal creature that retreats from the light and having to now unnaturally thermo-regulate itself by moving away from ground often causes bizarre captive behaviors..

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    DogRetepCow
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZachTurner View Post
    You should not need a "heat lamp".. unless you live in a cold house most people are able to keep these frogs with little or no out side heating help at all..
    Its only a Ten gallon tank a simple 15watt incandescent or 20-35watt Compact Fluorescent Lamp should emit enough heat all by its lonesome. They are Nocturnal so little to no UVB is required.
    Just Monitor your Temps Closely. Im sure the temps are not that far out of your range..

    As far as under-tank heating for arboreal frogs goes.. Despite its usual lack of effectiveness given the need for tall enclosures.. In my opinion it also messes with their natural behavior. Arboreal frogs use their vertical habitat to regulate their body temperature naturally moving "to ground" or under brush to cool down.. being a nocturnal creature that retreats from the light and having to now unnaturally thermo-regulate itself by moving away from ground often causes bizarre captive behaviors..
    Cool, thanks. I didn't know tree frogs self-regulate their temperature by moving up or down. That's pretty cool. Would you recommend under-tank heating for any type of non-aroboreal frog? Like a pacman, leopard frog, bullfrog, etc.

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    Hey guys, so I'm pretty sure I don't need any incadescent heating for my green tree frog. I've got a flourescent UVB light and according to my thermometers the temperature ranges from 70-73 during the day, and can get down to 68 degrees or so at night. These numbers are in the range for what green treen frogs need, but is it sufficient enough? Would it be preferable to try to increase the heating to like 77 degrees,rather than to keep the temperaure at 72? If so, than would a low watt incadescent bulb be enough to bring the heat up just a few more notches? And is 15 watts the lowest an incadescent will go to? I can't seem to find lower wattage bulbs.

    Thanks, guys

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    I can't answer your question whether you should or should not get a incadescent bulb. But if you do, you can always use a dimmer to bring the heat down, if you can't find one with low wattage enough.

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    ZachTurner
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    Yep.. Inline dimmers are around 3$.. Great investment. Super easy to dial in temps..
    Your running a tad cold around 2 maybe 3 degrees.. with summer coming you could just as easily wait a few months to be safe..
    If I remember correctly AGTF dont like any more than 10hours of day light..
    So 10 on 14 off if your not already..

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