Are they depressed?

[clownonfire]

Artes, I'm usually in agreement with you. In this one, less. I wouldn't mix the RETF with the American Tree frog for this simple reason: they do not have the same requirements in their environment. The Red-Eyed will need a much higher humid environment than the green tree frog. If it<s too humid, the AGTF will become brown and will stop being active. Ultimately, it might get sick.

Same goes for the lack of humidity. In this case, the RETF will not have enough moisture to maintain a good health.

At this point, I would suggest that you read Cheri's reply to your other thread: http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-new-post.html

You can apply almost all of this to the American Green tree frog. The only difference is that you will need to keep it more dry, around 70% humidity. So this would mean less misting. Once each two days could be plenty, as long as there is a bowl of water to soak in. Everything else applies: branches, lots and lots of plants, and tall vertical space.

Once you have succeeded improving the life of both frogs, which I am sure you will if you make all the necessary changes, you MAY think about getting another RETF to live in the same enclosure as your RETF, and another AGTF to live with your AGTF. But wait, wait till you have everything back under control.

Eric

[artes]

I actually didn't realize they had different humidity requirements - so, in that case, ignore my post, and get them friends of their own species.

[Leefrogs]

Even if they had the same requirements, it's not advised to mix at all unless you have a PHD in zoology. Each frog has specific skin secreations that will make the others sick. Even mixing red eyes with yellow eyes is a no no. Even though they are both agalychnis

[bshmerlie]

Even if they had the same requirements, it's not advised to mix at all unless you have a PHD in zoology. Each frog has specific skin secreations that will make the others sick. Even mixing red eyes with yellow eyes is a no no. Even though they are both agalychnis

Ginger is absolutely right and that is an excellent reason they should be housed separately .....as soon as you can financially afford to setup two equally appropriate enclosures. Until then keep them together.

[artes]

I clearly shouldn't be allowed to post on Frog Forums until I've had my morning coffee. /walks off and sulks

[bshmerlie]

Their humidity requirements do cross over enough to house them together. I have kept my red eyes around 70 percent for years. Now I do give them seasons of dryer times and wetter times depending on the weather in my local area. If it's raining outside I mist them more. If it's a summer and not raining I don't mist as often. Eric...if your Americans are doing fine at 70% then they'll be fine together until Lizzie can get a permanent home for the AGTF. Im just trying to address the immediate life or death issues that we have going on here. I suspect the tank they are in right now as it is set up is on the dry side. Then the fact that they are exposed and possibly having too much light coming in at night could be stressing to the point where they are having health issues. Keeping a AGTF in a small critter keeper is more harmful to him than being in with the Red Eye. The fact that they have come from Petco is a concern because they may have been exposed to different diseases and that's why they should be separated instead of putting them together. But at this point my primary concern is they tank as it is setup right now is not meeting the needs of either frog. That needs to be addressed immediately or Lizzie will continue to lose frogs.