Pacific Chorus Frog questions

[Moonfall]

Lily is my only frog right now, so contamination is not a concern. I looked at the store, they were charging $60 dollars for USED, very small terrariums, it was irritating. Some had scale on the sides and staining and they still contained bedding and stuff from previous inhbitants, right down to the water dishes. I would have had to totally bleach it out and stuff. The new ones were even more money. I will look online for a less expensive place to get one, or at least to get a new one for the same price.

I'm going to temporarily move her into a ten gallon I have, she's in what I think is a 5 gallon currently, and hopefully can get a really neat cage for her soon. I've always, always wanted a really neat Vivarium and now I have the resources to get one, and I will do it!

This is what I want for her-
http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products...rium_small.php

I'm annoyed at the fact that despite the sheer number of tanks I have, none are like this, since this is the kind I have been oogling for so long.

How cheap do you think I can find something like this for? I have limited funds, but I'm hopefully getting a job soon and that will up my income a little bit.

[lnaminneci]

Moonfall,

I have had my PCF's for almost a year now. They will change color with temperature and for camouflage as well, this is normal and not necessarily due to stress as in other frogs. They can be anywhere from bright green, dark forest green, tan, dark brown to almost black. And I have seen all of mine change to all of these colors....

Do you have a picture of your PCF? If it is a young froglette it may have a creamy white neck whether male or female, as it matures the males will get a very distrinctive dark neck. Two of mine that had creamy white necks and I was sure were female, suddenly changed to VERY male. Dark or spotted throats and loud croaking. If you do have a female, most likely she does not have eggs.

I like to give them varied diets. They like crickets, fruitflies, and waxworms (sparingly on the waxworms b/c they are fatty, it's like a froggy candybar!) The crickets should be no bigger then mouth width on your frog. Coat them with calcium and vitamins at each feeding. If she is a young froglette feed her daily pinhead crickets and fruitflies, older frogs can eat less often.

One PCF will be fine in a smaller tank, as they are small frogs. If you prefer a larger tank to set up with plants, and I say if you can go larger, Do It! The Exo Terra 18x18x18 I found on Josh's Frogs with free shipping! http://www.joshsfrogs.com/exo-terra-...-shipping.html you can also check your local petstores for low prices as well.
You can check out my albums as well for set ups, and in the Vivarium, Terrarium & Enclosure Discussion there are great posts and set/ups there too!

Hope this is helpful for you. Let us know how she is doing. Lily is such a cute name, we would love to see pictures!

Enjoy her, I love these little frogs. They have great personalities and do well in groups, they are very social and non-territorial.

~Lesley

[Moonfall]

I have a couple of very cruddy and blurry pictures, but I'll share them anyway. She was also all dirty from chasing crickets. I'm going to try to get better ones soon, hopefully with better lighting. Maybe she'll even sit still and let me hold her- she's been getting better about handling, especially since today she got something stuck in her mouth with a cricket, and I helped her get it out- she seemed to approve.

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I'm really hoping to come across another one of these little guys soon, I will probably keep it as a friend for Lily if I do. I feel a bit mean taking them from the wild, though. Even if my having them means they get regular food and care, I wonder whether they would prefer to be wild or not.. My boyfriend caught Lily for me when he dug up the pond she was living in, leaving her without water, and brought her here, and of course, I wanted her, but do you think they are happy captive, and is it cruel to get them from the wild?

[Tony]

PCFs are very hardy and readily adapt to captivity. Most, if not all, of mine started feeding immediately after capture and showed no signs of stress.

[Moonfall]

So you don't think it's cruel to keep them? I really don't want to be unfair by catching a second frog, but if you don't think they will mind, then I might.

Has anyone had a chance to look at the photos of Lily? Male or female?

[JJohnsen]

Moonfall,

I've had problems with the moral implications of keeping Pacific Chorus frogs as well. :/ My friend caught one after she almost ran her over in the street, in our city. I took her in, feeling it was better than putting her back where we found her, and my research said that these frogs should not be relocated because they can spread some sort of disease and wipe out other unaffected populations. So, yes, I have a frog now. And i love her to death but she has been very intent on escaping. LOL. And I feel bad but there isnt much I can do about it now. I am also curious about the opinions of others, because I feel I need validation. lol Plus, I want to get her a tank mate because these frogs are happier in groups.

[JJohnsen]

Moonfall,

I found my tank on craigslist without any trouble if you have access to their services where you live!