Sick red-eyed tree frog?

[Kurt]

Just toss the coconut, its faily cheap to replace. About $5 US a brick.

[sepgundamrg]

I know the price, I work at a pet store. Financialy right now I cant buy the coconut fiber, and the soil. I have mulch already but I cant afford the other 2. I do plan on replacing them as soon as I can as I have to replant my brom since the mother plant isn't blooming anymore.

[Sophinx]

hey, how is your frog doing?

I work with them in the lab.. have about 102.
The best way to keep tree frogs healthy is by not making their habitat too complicated, i see that yours looks very nice, but they don't tend to do well in this sort of set up.

The best set up for them is -
have a peace lilly in a plant pot (medium size for the tank) in a bare tank with layered blue-roll as the ground surface, keep it very damp and have a large water bowl. They hardly ever get sick this way, as long as its cleaned out everyother day (which requires taking out the dirty blue roll and cleaning the tanksurfaces with blue-roll and water to get rid of poo/sloughing/wee (no cleaning products).
I know this isn't the best looking tank, but your frogs will be much happier, they need quite a sterile environment.

hope this has helped.

http://www.hygienedepot.co.uk/p1362-...ll-Towels.aspx
heres the blue-roll

Sophie

[Tom Highum]

sophinx: Do they have a perfectly clean habitat in the wild? In my opinion it is best to recreate their natural habitat. Also that tank seems kinda sparsely decorated I would expect (no experience with red eyed tree frogs) that they would need more decorations to feel secure.

[sepgundamrg]

Its been a while since I last posted here, the tree frog that was sick recovered for a while then died, and my other one also got sick. I did find the cause of their illness though. I got back from a vacation a day early to find my father cooking methamphetamine in the house, that night I lost the smaller frog and had to get the larger one into clean air, he recovered within 2 days.

[Sophinx]

Tom: In the wild they only live a couple of years and probably die of disease or are eaten. It's a completely different world, and It's not realistic to recreate it in about 3ft by 3ft of space. But you can try and keep your frog as healthy as possible; you could probably add as many plants as you liked to the tank i described earlier, so they had more hiding places.
I didn't mean to sound like i was preeching about decorative tanks, they're probably great for many amphibians, my snakes tank is equally as ornate, but i've worked with red-eyes for a while and it's a tried and tested method, the guy who started this website has a similar set-up.


Sophie

[Sophinx]

SepG: sorry about your frog, that's a shame. Whatever your dad was cooking sounds perfectly toxic

[Kurt]

SepG: sorry about your frog, that's a shame. Whatever your dad was cooking sounds perfectly toxic

And quite possibly illegal!

[Kurt]

I keep my red-eye leaf frog tanks as simple as possible. I provide an artificial plant per enclosure. The adults rarely use the plant, often they sleep on the sides of the tank (as do the blue-webbed flying frogs). The froglets use them all the time.
I recently changed out the paper towel substrate for ground coconut. After reading John's post on the toxicity of paper towels and losing red-eye froglets for no visible reason, I came to the conclusion that the small, fragile froglets could not handle whatever chemicals that are present in paper towels. Adult frogs don't seem phased by them.
The transition seemed a little rough on some of them at first, but they have all adapted well and doing great so far. They look healthier/fatter. It's too soon to say whether or not I have solved the problem or not, but its looking good so far.

[Tom Highum]

I got back from a vacation a day early to find my father cooking methamphetamine in the house, that night I lost the smaller frog and had to get the larger one into clean air, he recovered within 2 days.

WHAT?????

[Marilyn]

Nope, no abnormal behavior other then it being skinny and having green splotches on its legs. I guess I will just keep a super close eye on it and take it to the vet when I get paid... Probly won't be able to afford a vet visit but I would have to lose my little guy, had him about 18 months now...

Make sure his tank temperature is 80-85 degrees. Have a fecal sample tested for parasites, and get him on panacur if he tests positive. Good luck. P.S. Have you introduced any new plants into the tank. One time I introduced a new rubber plant into my Red Eye tank. I washed it off well first and put flat river stones on the dirt to keep the frogs away from any fertilizer or chemicals. Within three months all Red Eyes were dead.

[Marilyn]

WHAT?????

Methamphetimine????? " Sounds like you AND the frogs should find a new habitat.

[sepgundamrg]

Methamphetimine????? " Sounds like you AND the frogs should find a new habitat.

We did, I live in Kansas City now, moved from Little Rock AR.

Kurt: My frogs are never on the glass, they are always on the plants. The one I have left is almost always on the underside of a brom leaf if the lights are on. Even when they are/where active they stayed on the plants and didn't use the glass or foam background.

[Kurt]

Really? Mine will use the plants, but prefer the sides of the tank.

[sepgundamrg]

Really? Mine will use the plants, but prefer the sides of the tank.

Yep, they seem to love the plants. Are your plants live or fake? Mine are all live.

[Kurt]

Artificial.

[Mihajlooo]

Is it a good idea to buy some tadpole of red eye tree frogs?

[Kurt]

I don't see why not.

[sepgundamrg]

I don't see why not.

Doesn't it take super long to turn them into froglets? If you have a cycled aquarium it couldn't hurt, but I wouldn't get them if you don't have a mature system to put them in as water impurities build up fast, especially ammonia and nitrite.

[Mihajlooo]

I ask becouse I need to travel them from Budapest to Serbia. It is a journey of 4h.