Sick red-eyed tree frog?

[Wolst21LT]

is the picture your red eyed tree frog tank? because i see other frogs in there. ive always been told to not mix different species.

[sepgundamrg]

is the picture your red eyed tree frog tank? because i see other frogs in there. ive always been told to not mix different species.

Yes it is, in the paragraph I said that the green tree frog doesn't live there any more, but the brown one does. I should be putting him back outside soon, just hate to see him go because his personality rocks.

[Kurt]

Let me get this straight, the red-eyed is housed with other frog species?

[sepgundamrg]

Yes, a brown tree frog. When I got them over a year ago, I was not informed that it was a bad idea. Since then I have released 2 green tree frogs and am down to 2 retf and a brown tf, soon I will release the brown tree frog.

[Wolst21LT]

Dont release the frog unless they are wild caught FROM YOUR AREA. Its never a good idea to release captives, especially if it isnt native to the area in which you live.

[Kurt]

Also, they have been exposed to the red-eyes so they should not be released back into the wild, even though they may be native to the area. The blotchy appearence could have a lot to do with housing it with another species altogether. We could be looking at a case of cross contamination and certainly a case of cross infection.

At this point they should be sepreated by species and all frogs should see the vet, at the very least for a deworming.

[sepgundamrg]

Ok, could I use John's rubbermaid tote idea for a tree frog house?

[Kurt]

Only if it has very good ventalation.

[Marilyn]

I would increase the day temperature to 85 and keep the night temp at 75 degrees. In nature it is not unusual to see Red Eyed Tree Frogs BASKING--yes basking--in the sun. Sick frogs seek warmer temperatures (inducing a "fever") which triggers the frogs natural immune response. To induce fever, raise tank temperature to 90-95 degrees for eight hours, carefully monitoring your frog for stress. Give him the next day off, reducing the tank temperature to 85 degrees and repeat the fever on the third day, again, monitoring the frog to ensure he is tolerating the fever. Give him the 4th day off fever and induce fever again on the 5th day. Then maintain the 85 degree day temp and 75 degree night temp, and see how he does. Good luck.

[sepgundamrg]

I would increase the day temperature to 85 and keep the night temp at 75 degrees. In nature it is not unusual to see Red Eyed Tree Frogs BASKING--yes basking--in the sun. Sick frogs seek warmer temperatures (inducing a "fever") which triggers the frogs natural immune response. To induce fever, raise tank temperature to 90-95 degrees for eight hours, carefully monitoring your frog for stress. Give him the next day off, reducing the tank temperature to 85 degrees and repeat the fever on the third day, again, monitoring the frog to ensure he is tolerating the fever. Give him the 4th day off fever and induce fever again on the 5th day. Then maintain the 85 degree day temp and 75 degree night temp, and see how he does. Good luck.

How should I go about raising the temp?

[Marilyn]

How should I go about raising the temp?

Use a red heat lamp. Direct it at the outside glass of the tank opposite the tank thermometer. Carefully monitor until the thermometer reads 95. Check regularly. If you are unable to get the tank temp up to 95 place a piece of foil over half of the screen top or move the lamp slightly closer. Be careful not to create any hot spots on the glass. Red Eyes are notorious for getting too close to hot lamps and lights and cooking themselves. If the Red Eye seems slightly better by day 5, wait a week and repeat the process. Be sure to induce fever only when you will be home to monitor the entire 8-hr fever process, and check on your frog at regular intervals looking for any signs of distress.

[sepgundamrg]

Use a red heat lamp. Direct it at the outside glass of the tank opposite the tank thermometer. Carefully monitor until the thermometer reads 95. Check regularly. If you are unable to get the tank temp up to 95 place a piece of foil over half of the screen top or move the lamp slightly closer. Be careful not to create any hot spots on the glass. Red Eyes are notorious for getting too close to hot lamps and lights and cooking themselves. If the Red Eye seems slightly better by day 5, wait a week and repeat the process. Be sure to induce fever only when you will be home to monitor the entire 8-hr fever process, and check on your frog at regular intervals looking for any signs of distress.

Any other suggestions to raise temp? unfortunately vet car payment and insurance come out of this super small check, so I will be completely wiped. Or do you suggest skipping the vet and trying this for 2 weeks?

[Kurt]

I would suggest the vet first. I have never heard of red-eyes basking, as they are an extremely nocturnal species.

[Marilyn]

I would suggest the vet first. I have never heard of red-eyes basking, as they are an extremely nocturnal species.

It goes without saying that the vet is the BEST option. Most of us want to try something else first, which is why this forum is so helpful and useful. Many captive amphibians are not kept warm enough during the day--and, yes, the temp should be lower at night. Sick nocturnal frog species have been known to bask in the sun during the day. This induces fever which activates the immune response.

[Marilyn]

The medical community is very much aware of the benefits of the human body's ability to create a fever to fight off infections and viruses. Cold-blooded amphibians do not possess this ability and therefore sick amphibians depend upon the sun's hot rays to do this for them.

[sepgundamrg]

I should be calling the vet tomorrow to see how much a visit will cost, if it isn't too much I will take them in.

I should also add that he is looking perfectly fine now. All the discoloration is gone and he is back to a healthy weight.

[Marilyn]

I should be calling the vet tomorrow to see how much a visit will cost, if it isn't too much I will take them in.

I should also add that he is looking perfectly fine now. All the discoloration is gone and he is back to a healthy weight.

Did you increase his tank temp up to the proper range?

If he's looking perfectly fine now, the discoloration is gone, and he's back to a healthy weight, why are you going to take him to the vet? That would be like me going to the doctor, completely fine, and telling him that I was coughing, sneezing and had a fever and sore throat last week.

[sepgundamrg]

At this point they should be sepreated by species and all frogs should see the vet, at the very least for a deworming.

Cuz Kurt said so..... I havent been able to raise the temp either. The discoloration slowly went away day by day as he was in quarantine and gaining weight. Could the spots have been caused by stress?

[Marilyn]

Cuz Kurt said so..... I havent been able to raise the temp either. The discoloration slowly went away day by day as he was in quarantine and gaining weight. Could the spots have been caused by stress?

The discoloration and weight loss could definitely have been caused by stress. Why not just get fecals tested for parasites? You don't need an appointment for that, you would just pay per fecal tested. Some of my tanks contain multiples of the same species, ie, one tank has six Fire Bellies, another tank has several European Green Frogs and another tank has several White's Tree Frogs living together. From time to time I will bring to the vet one stool sample from each tank and have them tested for parasites. If one of the samples is positive for parasites, I treat all of the frogs in that particular tank with Panacur. If one has parasites, all of his tank mates probably do, too.

[Kurt]

Keep in mind not everyone has access to or the experience to be able administer fenbendazole or metronidazole. So more often than not, a vet is needed in this situation.