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    Ok, quick updates. I moved the sensor for the fogger and it seems to be turning on more often now, which is good. I'm having trouble keeping the tape from getting wet, but what's a few pieces of tape for the health and happiness of my frogs, eh? Paul Newman is still doing good as far as I can tell, he's definitely eating. I saw his belly last night and was shocked at how fat he is, no wonder, he's been eating enough crickets for the two of them.

    Anyway! Bruce Willis has shown no change, as of yet. I called my vet yesterday and asked for advice, she told me the anti-fungal would be a bad idea because it tends to dry out the skin, which the opposite of what we want, so she put a medicine behind the counter for me that was supposed to be a shedding aid as well as an intestinal lubricant. I will be using this sparingly, as I know Bruce Willis hasn't been eating and needs anything but a good poop right about now, but the vet assured me it would help to lubricate and soothe the skin as well. I gave little Willie a soak of warm water with conditioner last night in the hopes that this might help as well, s/he sat obediently in the water for a good amount of time, which is good because I haven't seen him/her soak in any water voluntarily since his/her illness began showing. I tried to coax him/her with crickets last night as well but s/he showed no interest, as usual. This morning she was that same ugly dark orange (not that it's ugly per se, but it makes me sad knowing that's her unhappy color...) so I went and picked up the medicine in the hopes that I could give him/her a quick soak in it tonight and see if that helps. S/he's been awake in the day time, probably paranoid because of all the handling and stress with his/her skin, but hopefully this will all be over soon. ):

    Thanks for reading guys, it makes me feel better to know there are people pulling for me out there! ><

    I'll update after I use the medicine tonight. It's called DSS solution, by the way, she said the full name last night but I can't remember it right now...anyway, thanks!
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    I have had five whites’ tree frogs. Two of them adjusted fine to my tanks with no problem, while the other three wanted to bury themselves. Well, with one of the WTF's I kept rooting up and misting him and giving him food. He ate for a while, but eventually became so stressed that he died. The other two, which I currently own, I left buried until they were ready to come out on their own. Eventually they started coming out with no problem at all. It took them a couple of weeks. I think that sometimes these frogs may become more easily stressed than we tend to think. Just because they are smiling doesn't mean they aren't afraid. If they have nowhere to hide they are more than likely going to dig.

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    You're absolutely right EZweasel. I'm sorry to hear about your loss by the way, I don't know what I would do if I lost one of mine...D: I have had both of these frogs for nearly a month now and Bruce Willis seemed to be adjusting fine until I noticed s/he was burying him/herself and had incomplete sheds. I do think I was keeping it too dry in the tank and that's why s/he burrowed and is having trouble shedding, hopefully the increased humidity is working on his/her upset skin.

    I try to leave my frogs alone as much as I can, especially when they're sick. All of them respond to human intervention in different ways, which is why I tend to leave a frog be if they start acting weird first off. But his/her incomplete shed I cannot ignore because I know it gives him/her a great amount of discomfort. I'm seeing a little improvement today, which is good, but I'm still going to treat at least once with the DSS solution tonight if I don't see him/her eating.

    The good news is I see Bruce Willis' color has lightened a bit, almost back to his/her original creamy daytime color and have not seen him/her struggle or kick his/her legs at all since yesterday. S/he has finally returned to a plant leaf instead of sleeping on the floor of the tank, and seems to be resting peacefully for now. Maybe I won't need the DSS after all...I'm just hoping his/her appetite returns.

    Keep your fingers crossed everyone!
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    Quick update:

    Looks like I didn't need the DSS after all.

    Yesterday afternoon (I said this in my previous post) Bruce Willis moved from the floor of the viv back up to the plant, which was a good sign. S/he stayed there all the rest of the day and into the night. I added less crickets to the viv last night because I'm sure Paul is healthy as a horse as he's eating all twenty before little Willis even gets a chance. >> S/he didn't come down from the leaf to eat last night as far as I know, but I found him/her on the rim of a water bowl on the cold side of the tank, looking near dead. Luckily it was my imagination and s/he was just sleeping. Worried, I poked his/her butt until s/he hopped over the warm side of the tank (s/he must have been freezing it was almost in the 50s last night in my room). S/he is now attached the wall with the heating pad, warming up and trying to sleep I think.

    I haven't seen any of the previous behavior in two days: No kicking or rubbing his/her tummy on the ground, no weird climbing (though s/he's always had trouble with that I've noticed and Paul doesn't climb at all that I've ever seen) but his/her weight is starting to concern me. I don't know how long it's been since s/he has eaten anything and s/he is starting to look skinny, TOO skinny for a White's. Compared to Paul s/he looks emaciated...I've dropped some pedialite into the spray bottle and gave him/her a good spray down, thinking maybe the electrolytes will help to get his/her appetite back? I'm not sure...I just really hope s/he starts eating soon or there's a trip to the vet in our future.
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    I would take the frog to the vet. I have no clue as to what is wrong.

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    Poor Willis! I hope he gets better soon <3

    I'm also going to add, my car is named Bruce Willis.. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Poor Willis! I hope he gets better soon <3

    I'm also going to add, my car is named Bruce Willis.. lol
    Cuz he's amazing! One of the best action heroes of todays' movies. It's only right to honor him. ^ ^
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