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    I got a question. I want to know if there are other substraits that wont stick to an amphibian and be okay to use for a toad terrarium? I'm using soil in one area---- but I wanna know what other substraits I can use for the other part so I can view their colors(they get muddy-ish when in dirt and when in water their colors show). Any suggestions?

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    leaf litter, or live moss.

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    or orchid bark works well
    0.0.2 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    0.0.3 Dendrobates azureus
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius "Alanis" (tads)
    3.3.0 Epipedobates anthonyi (+tads!)
    0.0.1 Lepidobatrachus laevis
    0.0.4 Pyllobates terribilis
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya imitator "Chazuta"
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya vanzolini
    0.0.6 Xenopus laevis

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    Quote Originally Posted by berksmike View Post
    or orchid bark works well
    Isn't that dangerous????

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    Orchid bark is dangerous if it's constantly saturated. Like if you use it for a drainage layer. So if you do use it, mist the sides of the tank, or any plants you have, instead of the bark directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leefrogs View Post
    Orchid bark is dangerous if it's constantly saturated. Like if you use it for a drainage layer. So if you do use it, mist the sides of the tank, or any plants you have, instead of the bark directly.
    There was something called cypress mulch. Is this good as well?

    Or could I use soil but instead of them going directly into the soil---- I plant in there grass? Will grass grow well?

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    I just want that " grassy" look. I do recall "chia". From chia pets? Will that grow? or how about a field of clovers?

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    What about the little pebbles you can buy from pet stores just wash off any dust before use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    What about the little pebbles you can buy from pet stores just wash off any dust before use.
    .... Pebbles can be swallowed down and not pass through the stomach. I guess I want something in an area where they are "clean" persay of any debris for better to look at. guess half and half persay.

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    I think cypress is a way big no, no. Very toxic!!


    But grass!!!
    Very creative!! Yes grass would be good. Clover, I would research, as some varieties need a dormant period, and red kinds are in eddible. I would stick to things that can be eaten, maybe a wheat grass. Like cat grass, it grows very dense and that would make it less likely that frogs would get a large strand. It's a low light grass, not sure on dormant period. I wouldn't use grass seed, as this is sometimes treated.

    As far as the small pebble, you can silicone these together in clumps to large for the frog to swollow. I did this in kermit and lumps cage, as a made a hill/ drainage layer, and the level spot has these clumps. Makes it easier for water to evaporate, and me to spot standing water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leefrogs View Post
    I think cypress is a way big no, no. Very toxic!!


    But grass!!!
    Very creative!! Yes grass would be good. Clover, I would research, as some varieties need a dormant period, and red kinds are in eddible. I would stick to things that can be eaten, maybe a wheat grass. Like cat grass, it grows very dense and that would make it less likely that frogs would get a large strand. It's a low light grass, not sure on dormant period. I wouldn't use grass seed, as this is sometimes treated.

    As far as the small pebble, you can silicone these together in clumps to large for the frog to swollow. I did this in kermit and lumps cage, as a made a hill/ drainage layer, and the level spot has these clumps. Makes it easier for water to evaporate, and me to spot standing water.
    Oh! That sounds good! Though wheat grass? My rabbit would eat that. But Iam not sure how long the grass would last.

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    I have used orchid bark for years as a topping to the soil substrate with no problems at all
    0.0.2 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    0.0.3 Dendrobates azureus
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius "Alanis" (tads)
    3.3.0 Epipedobates anthonyi (+tads!)
    0.0.1 Lepidobatrachus laevis
    0.0.4 Pyllobates terribilis
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya imitator "Chazuta"
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya vanzolini
    0.0.6 Xenopus laevis

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    Quote Originally Posted by berksmike View Post
    I have used orchid bark for years as a topping to the soil substrate with no problems at all
    Just a tad skeptical about it. But ill try it out I guess.

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    I only get the reptile grade stuff obviously - not the bark sold for orchid cultivation.

    Have also found springatils get established better in tanks with the bark as opposed to just soil/coco substrates like in my cranwelli tanks
    0.0.2 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    0.0.3 Dendrobates azureus
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius "Alanis" (tads)
    3.3.0 Epipedobates anthonyi (+tads!)
    0.0.1 Lepidobatrachus laevis
    0.0.4 Pyllobates terribilis
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya imitator "Chazuta"
    0.0.3 Ranitomeya vanzolini
    0.0.6 Xenopus laevis

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    hmm. .....
    Very interesting.
    Whatever you do we want Picts, especially if you do the grass thing.
    I might try that in my next build. Crickets would have something real healthy to eat.

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    When I was 6 I was given a frog by my friend and it had grass as a substrate which it loved unfortunately it escaped after about 4 weeks. I'm struggling to find a moss that can survive in dark and permanant cold so I'm thinking of using it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leefrogs View Post
    hmm. .....
    Very interesting.
    Whatever you do we want Picts, especially if you do the grass thing.
    I might try that in my next build. Crickets would have something real healthy to eat.
    When I get it all set up ill post pics. It'll have to wait. So far my toads are in a smaller terrarium for the time being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    When I was 6 I was given a frog by my friend and it had grass as a substrate which it loved unfortunately it escaped after about 4 weeks. I'm struggling to find a moss that can survive in dark and permanant cold so I'm thinking of using it again.
    awe good luck with them.

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