I have Big Eyed Tree Frogs in a 18x18x24, which they have only been in for two weeks now. I do not see any of them soak in the water dish anymore. Could this be because I run a fogger most of the time, and the humidity is always on point? In their last home, I had a hard time maintaining temp and humidity and the humidity relied on spraying. Or maybe the placement is off? It's more towards the front of the terrarium, but, that never bothered them before. They are healthy little frogs, they eat, they are active, they climb everywhere and sleep sticking to leaves or the glass. So is this something to be concerned about?
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Hi Kairi, there's no reasons to be concerned. Leptopolis vermaculatus as you know are tree frogs, and now that they are in a vertical tank, they will more than anything be climbing through sticks and branches. I have one of them and I rarely see it on the substrate.
Foggers are great, but I would still advise that you mist once in awhile with dechlorinated water. Just for extra wetness. Also, do keep your bowl of water, and change it regularly. You still want to make sure your frogs have a place to hydrate.
Eric
Great info! Good to know nothing is amiss. However, does the fogger water need to be dechlorinated too? I have been doing that to be on the safe side.
Always use dechlorinated water. It's better for your frogs and will definitely extend the life of your Fogger. The nozzle tends to clog if you use hard water.
I think Eric means to say you should use DISTILLED in your system. This water has absolutely no minerals in it, that build up and deposit in your system
It is reccomended by the fog machine manufactures to use distilled water in them or the minerals in regular tap water can shorten the life of the fogger. You should also use distilled water in your hand misting water bottles as that will help keep water spots off the glass. In the frog's water dish you can use regular dechlorinated tap water. There was a thread about the different water awhile back...try a search on it as John goes into more detail.
It is only recommended. I myself use water which I keep in containers opened for 48 hours. It becomes dechlorinated and pure, and I know lots of hobbyists who use the same process with their misters, Monsoons, or Foggers.
Chlorine and Chloramine's are used to treat water to make it safe for human consumption. They are two different products added by your water distribution district. As far as I know only one of the two will be used. In fact Chlorine is rapidly being phased out here in the US.
Water that contains either Chlorine or Chloramine's will need to be treated to make if fish or frog safe. To treat Chlorine you use a specific product to neutralize it or expose the water to air for 24 hours or more and the chlorine will dissipate. Chloramine's WILL NOT dissipate in air! To treat Chloramine's you need a different product. Many of the commercial products available today will treat both Chlorine or Chloramine's at the same time.
Here is a link that shows many products available for you to use in treating your water.
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.co...ps/c/3578/3978
1.2.0 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Azureus'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Lamasi 'Orange'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Ventrimaculatus 'Understory Line'
0.3.0 Dendrobates leucomelas
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As always your mileage may vary!
I may or may not know what I'm talking about!
Michael, what an informative thread! I guess then it's either you know how your water is treated in your city, or you take no chance and used distilled water! Following your comment, we called the city and asked how it was treated. And there is no chloramine used in our tap water. Just normal chlorine... A big FIEW (and man, did we have to be transferred many times before talking to the right dude).
Eric,
A quick call to your water department should provide you with any water quality related issue. Hopefully you get the right person when you first call. I know the water plant in the village I work in publishes at least yearly a water report. It contains usage and chemical analysis information. Very useful if you need that info.
1.2.0 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Azureus'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Lamasi 'Orange'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Ventrimaculatus 'Understory Line'
0.3.0 Dendrobates leucomelas
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As always your mileage may vary!
I may or may not know what I'm talking about!
I have been using tap water in all my misters and the Monsoon. I treat with Reptisafe and still leave it air for 24 hours before adding to the misting products.
Haven't had problems yet with the nozzles clogging on the Monsoon but have troubles with the bottle mister all the time.
On this topic, since I'm not up on filter systems for the home. What about products such as a Brita Water Filtration system on the home tap? Does that filter off the chlorine?
1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii
Don,
From the FAQ page on the Brita Website
http://www.brita.com/support/faq/faucet-faq/
What do Brita® Faucet Filtration Systems remove from tap water?
Brita® Faucet Filtration Systems with Advanced Features (Model FF-100) and Brita® Faucet Filtration System (Model OPFF-100)
The Brita® Faucet Filter removes microbiological cryptosporidium and giardia. It also reduces lead, TTHM, VOCs, lindane (pesticide), 2,4-D, alachlor, atrazine (herbicide), chlorine (taste and odor) and sediment1.
From this I would say no.
Here is a great article from the ReefKeeping Website about chlorine and Chloramine
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-11/rhf/feature/
1.2.0 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Azureus'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Lamasi 'Orange'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Ventrimaculatus 'Understory Line'
0.3.0 Dendrobates leucomelas
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As always your mileage may vary!
I may or may not know what I'm talking about!
Thanks Mike.
Now what about UV sterilizers and removing Chlorine or Chloramine?
(knowing Mike knows his water)
1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii
1.2.0 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Azureus'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Lamasi 'Orange'
1.1.0 Dendrobates Ventrimaculatus 'Understory Line'
0.3.0 Dendrobates leucomelas
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As always your mileage may vary!
I may or may not know what I'm talking about!
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