Breeding pair of toads! :D

[Deku]

Yeah, those are eggs - they come in a long string. Hopefully the male is fertalizing it though after being stressed/removed from the pond.

My advice would be to return the taddies to the pond when they start to hatch from the eggs, toad tadpoles are terribly hard to raise.

To warm of water and they die, to many of them in an area and they die, to much food and they die. When they do become toadlets they are smaller then the tadpoles once formed, you'll be feeding them fruit flies (the only thing they'll eat at that size) and not all of them will get enough. They are absoutly voracious.

Good luck with whatever you do, but expect a 75%-85% kill rate if you keep them.

Umm I'ved kept tadpoles before. I have the space for the tads. One thing is... I didn't have anything to transfer the eggs with. Like I have where they go. But not the stuff to take em out. and I used partially my hands along with a scoop and took the eggs and put em in the new container.

hopefully they'll be okay. They look fine. Except some strands are seperated yet still have the dots inside and the slime. I was told to use an anti-fungal solution. I bought "pimafix" supposed to be natural. Is this okay to use for the eggs? The eggs are in a 3gallon container. It was from one of t hose huge cheese balls containers. lol I have a 3gallon filter in another tank thats been running in a fishtank full of guppies and minnows. Plus a mud turtle. Is it okay to use this filter in the tank? Its run by an airpump.

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P.s. if anything goes wrong. The male is still trying to go at it. So I just got the toad I'ved been keeping for a year since its toadlet form. I found it as a 1inch toadlet. Voracious feeder. She's extremely fat. She was fatter than the wild toad I caught in the stream. Though the wild toad was larger. Yet the one I'ved had is wider in girth. He's mounted her. The eggs are not attached to any ornament. Is that okay?

[Wormwood]

I wouldn't know to be honest, I've never kept wild toad eggs. I remember keeping toad taddies as a kid and the majority died, minus the ones that did fully mature and that I released into the yard.

Sorry to be a buzz kill, just let me know how many die. Be pepared to shell out 50-60 bucks a week for fruit flies.

A 3 gallon bin won't be large enough for 100-300 tadpoles. Taddies do fine in semi-stagnet water, so make sure the pump isn't filtering to much out of the water, or moving around the water to much. I've never seen toads lay eggs in moving water.

[Deku]

I wouldn't know to be honest, I've never kept wild toad eggs. I remember keeping toad taddies as a kid and the majority died, minus the ones that did fully mature and that I released into the yard.

Sorry to be a buzz kill, just let me know how many die. Be pepared to shell out 50-60 bucks a week for fruit flies.

A 3 gallon bin won't be large enough for 100-300 tadpoles. Taddies do fine in semi-stagnet water, so make sure the pump isn't filtering to much out of the water, or moving around the water to much. I've never seen toads lay eggs in moving water.

Eggs have been moved to a 29gallon aquarium that was set up months ago. It had fish in it but I moved the fish temporarily. As for fruit flies---I'm going to culture them, and I think a fellow member is going to help provide me with a jump start culture to get a whole culture of them running. As for crickets---I'm going to invest on breeding them. Either that or find another suitable food source for larger toads(2inches and up)
There's over 5k worth of eggs. That will produce me alot of tadpoles. A lot of tadpoles will also mean that there are higher chances of getting more toadlets. When I succesfully grow the toadlets into a few months in there I will release about a great majority of them and keep atleast 5-61inch toadlets. Just to make sure that I get atleast a couple adults. By the time I get a breeding colony of insects I should have enough to keep up with this upgrade on the hobby. I have a 30gallon(long) already premade. Toads are generally inactive so for a total of 6-7 toads that should be okay. If that's not enough I may end up getting a larger enclosure(no problem) and sell that tank to a friend or something. I was eventually going to get a exo terra terrarium thats 36inches long 24(or 18inches) wide, 24(or 18inches) tall. lol.


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P.s. Alot of them will die regardless if they are kept indoors or outdoors. Outdoors they succumb to harsh conditions like overcrowding, bad water quality(so stagnant water isn't the best but the cleanest water isn't the best either.It should be fairly clean I assume. Where there's not alot of ammonia build up or nitrites.) Even toadlets in the norm not all will survive even if everything is perfect. Indoors or outdoors.
Outdoors they can also be preyed upon. Which is what happens. So in reality I will have more toadlets than there would if they were outdoors. Keeping in mind the toadlets would be from ONE single batch of eggs. On contrast to the DOZENS AND DOZENS of batches of eggs in the wild.

they produce many eggs because they know that not all will make it to adulthood. Just like a sea turtle.

Thanks for the warning though. Iam prepared to scoop out deads daily. Iam going to be doing weekly water changes as well.

[Wormwood]

American Toads are more active then you think, I have eight of them. They are only inactive if you over feed them and cramp them in a tank, if you supply them space they enjoy climbing around and digging new burrows. I have mine in a 150 gallon enclosure and they are out every night wandering the tank looking for crickets and heading back and forth to the water source (pond). Wild toads do not sit in one place at night, they move around and search for prey, finding backyard lights and other sources where bugs gather.

A 30 gallon tank is good for three adults, especially large females, anything more and your cramping them in. A 40 gallon breeder tank could fit four pretty well (with a smaller pool).
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If you have 5k eggs, throw half back into the water - there is no way you'll be able to hatch, keep alive even half of those tadpoles. It' far better giving them a chance out in the wild then letting them die in waves in a tank. There is no way 2,000 tadpoles will even make it in a small 29 gallon tank, if you think so your delusional.

If your doing all this for 5-6 little toadlets, phah... go online and order four from Florida and a dealer at $5 bucks a pop. It'll save you on the cost of fruit flies, and save hundreds if not thousands of little toadlets and tadpoles from death. At least in the wild they'd have a fighting chance, more become toadlets then you think. I remember setting 20 toadlets go in my yard as a child and the next spring I found 10 little toads under the wooden porch/deck of my parent's back yard.

[Deku]

American Toads are more active then you think, I have eight of them. They are only inactive if you over feed them and cramp them in a tank, if you supply them space they enjoy climbing around and digging new burrows. I have mine in a 150 gallon enclosure and they are out every night wandering the tank looking for crickets and heading back and forth to the water source (pond). Wild toads do not sit in one place at night, they move around and search for prey, finding backyard lights and other sources where bugs gather.

A 30 gallon tank is good for three adults, especially large females, anything more and your cramping them in. A 40 gallon breeder tank could fit four pretty well (with a smaller pool).
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If you have 5k eggs, throw half back into the water - there is no way you'll be able to hatch, keep alive even half of those tadpoles. It' far better giving them a chance out in the wild then letting them die in waves in a tank. There is no way 2,000 tadpoles will even make it in a small 29 gallon tank, if you think so your delusional.

If your doing all this for 5-6 little toadlets, phah... go online and order four from Florida and a dealer at $5 bucks a pop. It'll save you on the cost of fruit flies, and save hundreds if not thousands of little toadlets and tadpoles from death. At least in the wild they'd have a fighting chance, more become toadlets then you think. I remember setting 20 toadlets go in my yard as a child and the next spring I found 10 little toads under the wooden porch/deck of my parent's back yard.

Iam not saying I think that I would have 2k tadpoles in my tank. If I have too many tadpoles I'd put them in a seperate tank, and the ones I can't keep Id release. Then when they morph Id set them free and keep a few. I never said I'd keep every toad from the clutch. But I was going to keep atleast good amount of tadpoles to have a good chance of full metamorphosis. If I wanted to buy them, I'd had buy them a few years ago. I wanted to fully experience the tadpole cycle. It's not that bad as you may think.
I am already planning on when to release alot of the tadpoles. If there actually ends up being 2k tadpoles in my tank I would let go alot of them and keep 100tadpoles or so. Because not a great deal of them will make it into a toadlet. By then I would release a great deal of toadlets and keep a certain amount. If I need two tanks, that's fine. But if I recall I remember another user which is also moderator state that toads are not super active. Infact Ill bring up a few links from some sites that say they're not that active.

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.ed...mericanus.html



Ill also post links saying what you are saying:
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...0-10WRiw&pli=1

http://www.uri.edu/cels/nrs/paton/LH_ea_toad.html

http://www.herpnet.net/Minnesota-Her...rogs&Itemid=63


I guess it really depends. But either way don't worry Ill just use an extra tank I have for the extra toads. :] Or I wonder if I could possibly buy a used 75g tank and use it and house 10toads in total in there.

[Whistly]

Lol you must really want some toads to go through all of this I think you'll make a great "parent" of these frogs.

[Wormwood]

You really aren't listening to my advice are you? 200 tadpoles in a 29 gallon tank is pushing it, you'll need 10 tanks to support 2,000 tadpoles, with many pumps and filters (not just one, from what you made it sound like) 10 full grown toads in a 75 gallon tank is pushing it. And don't think the larger the tank is better for the taddies, they need shallow water since they need to come up for air. Mature toads are not tree frogs, which can make use of the entire tank, height and width and I think alot of hobbiest forget this with ground dwelling species, in the end stressing them out and overpacking them into a tank.

If you want to experience tadpoles keep 50 of them. From all your posts you seem really, really, unprepared for how much work and time you'll have to put into keeping these guys alive - which is why I'm getting more and more opposed to your choice of keeping them (and 10 toads) after they fully grow.

Has that moderator kept American toads all his life, in various settings? You can trust me that they are very active, especially nocturanally, they do not sit in one place like alot of herp species. They move around to feed like any other amphibian that doesn't rely on water.

[Deku]

Lol you must really want some toads to go through all of this I think you'll make a great "parent" of these frogs.

Thank you.