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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    Yay finally the temperature converter on my phone has purpose 10-15 degrees centigrade is 50-59. Your room temp is 20 centigrade so think it should be fine at room temp.

    As they breed once a year I would set up atleast three colonies so you don't end up decimating a single colony. I know what you mean about buying feeders I've tried breeding crickets and locusts but Dunedin is just too cold for them that's why I love woodlice so much they just laugh at the cold. I agree with you on getting a bigger container if you want a big colony my colony is in a 45cm long 20cm wide 30cm tall container it has pet store stones about 5cm deep with about 2cm of sand on top with a scattering of stones on that and 4 small lettuce plants growing in it, and leaf litter is scattered everywhere. I'll post a photo tomorrow.

    if I get over a 100 will I be able to get a constant breeding colony? Or should I use sparingly as to not exhaust the colony?
    What size will the toadlets be because if they're under 5cm they will probably only eat about 5-6 in a sitting otherwise they'll end up fat. I would use them with other insects just to make sure they don't run out.

    That's what Iam thinking. I got a mix of woodlice. roly poleys and pillbugs(the ones that roll up into a solid ball). I got over a 100 or so. I'm pretty sure way over a hundred. lol. There were lots of them in the container(too much to count), Ill be getting some more later. Jesus I found so many insects in my yard. I found a few that I think are stinkbugs. had green carapace(looked like a beetle, like a bess beetle), and had orange legs. I chased it--- it got away but it stank horridly.

    I'm feeding the toadlets with that and fruitflies, as well as other stuff too. I can't seem to find springtails no matter what I do. :/ How long do woodlice live for? I found a huge one. Size of my thumb(the last bone on my thumb--- not the hole thumb). I found small ones(1mm) and medium ones. Some had eggs under them(only a few though...)

    I found some slugs and two grubs which idk what they turn into. but yeah.

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  3. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wormwood View Post
    I said 25 crickets per week mate, or 40-50 wood lice/pill bugs.. since they are significantly smaller. Not 100.

    And I never said you needed a 150 gallon tank but for 10 toads - heck yeah you need it. Since your only keeping 5, probally not - a 40 gallon breeder is fine.

    Again, good luck - I'm bowing out.
    Ehh Iam still going to get a bigger tank just for display purposes. I want to test out your theory about how active you say they can be. 25crickets? I try not to overfeed my toad because I heard amphibians have serious issues with obesity. She's fat as she is. I mix the diet up though. Sometimes I feed 1dozen per week along with other insects(not too many of them), and sometimes Ill feed it 3dozens. Sometimes just a few worms. I try to mix it up.

    Variety is the key I presume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    That's what Iam thinking. I got a mix of woodlice. roly poleys and pillbugs(the ones that roll up into a solid ball). I got over a 100 or so. I'm pretty sure way over a hundred. lol. There were lots of them in the container(too much to count), Ill be getting some more later. Jesus I found so many insects in my yard. I found a few that I think are stinkbugs. had green carapace(looked like a beetle, like a bess beetle), and had orange legs. I chased it--- it got away but it stank horridly.

    I'm feeding the toadlets with that and fruitflies, as well as other stuff too. I can't seem to find springtails no matter what I do. :/ How long do woodlice live for? I found a huge one. Size of my thumb(the last bone on my thumb--- not the hole thumb). I found small ones(1mm) and medium ones. Some had eggs under them(only a few though...)

    I found some slugs and two grubs which I dont know what they turn into. but yeah.
    Not too sure how long they live for but seens as they breed once a year it must be atleast 2 years. Springtails will be in leaf litter and when you disturb them they will be gone like a shot and are pretty much imposssible to catch so I'd just buy springtails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    Not too sure how long they live for but seens as they breed once a year it must be atleast 2 years. Springtails will be in leaf litter and when you disturb them they will be gone like a shot and are pretty much imposssible to catch so I'd just buy springtails.
    I found alot of aphids--- but never caught any. any info on them?
    I guess 2 years should be okay.

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    Hey I got a question. After the toadlets I chose. Which maybe 3-4 of them. After they get a little bigger. Like say big enough to eat a cricket; will it be okay to put them in a same tank? A small terrarium though. Like 12x12x12. This will be untill they are big enough to be with the adult toad. maybe 3months after? Is this okay?

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    Weird question:
    you guys know how for crocodiles or alligators that the gender of the hatchling is determined by temperature? Can something like this be done for toad tadpoles? I heard they can change gender in the tadpole stage.

    How will I be able to assure to get females?

    Also what are your opinions on this article I came across?
    http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...00004/art00006
    ALSO:
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...9.00354.x/full

    It makes me think. If I provide constant food(I.e. The algea growing on t he wall of the tank, drop in food daily 1-2x, put it slightly more protein based foods<30%animal matter, 50%Algea based, 20% color enhancing flakes> I will get larger tadpoles, thus getting larger metamorphs. This may also affect their personality. More abundant foods, no predators, no overcrowding= not so shy toads(less than they ussually can be. Mine don't really hide, but spend a few hourrs digging--- so I wanted to test this). Any suggestions?

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    Yea putting the toads together will be fine. There's no way to determine gender when they are young.

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    For aphids I don't think they'd have any nutritional value as all they drink is sap which is basically sugar. For the gender I think it might work adjusting the temp after all Crocs and Frogs are both amphibian/reptiles so if you lowered the temp I think you might get females.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    For aphids I don't think they'd have any nutritional value as all they drink is sap which is basically sugar. For the gender I think it might work adjusting the temp after all Crocs and Frogs are both amphibian/reptiles so if you lowered the temp I think you might get females.

    They may not be the same species or even from the same classification. But they are pretty close to each other in a sense. They like to graze on algea alot. They have grown quite big.

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    Oh yea just remember if you do try to get just females by changing the temp it will need to be cold but as a reprocussion depending on the coldness it may take take twice as long to turn to toads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    Oh yea just remember if you do try to get just females by changing the temp it will need to be cold but as a reprocussion depending on the coldness it may take take twice as long to turn to toads.
    I was reading that temperature had no effect on the morphing. That what had effect was quantity of food(produces large tadpoles/morphs), and lowering tank water supposedly speeds up the growth process. The tadpoles which are afraid of dessication will rapidly morph into toadlets. Though I'm thinking of it letting it take its natural course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    I was reading that temperature had no effect on the morphing. That what had effect was quantity of food(produces large tadpoles/morphs), and lowering tank water supposedly speeds up the growth process. The tadpoles which are afraid of dessication will rapidly morph into toadlets. Though I'm thinking of it letting it take its natural course.

    I didn't know the water level sped up the process. What gender will you get if you lowered the water level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    I didn't know the water level sped up the process. What gender will you get if you lowered the water level?
    I'm not really sure the changes the gender. If anything it maybe the temperature. But it may not even do anything at all. Lowering the water level forces the tadpoles to morph faster than normal. It's best done with a bright light that makes the water level go down slowly. This apparently sets it in motion to morph sooner or face dessication.

    I'm hoping to get larger specimens by feeding more food. Decided it would be a better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    I'm not really sure the changes the gender. If anything it maybe the temperature. But it may not even do anything at all. Lowering the water level forces the tadpoles to morph faster than normal. It's best done with a bright light that makes the water level go down slowly. This apparently sets it in motion to morph sooner or face dessication.

    I'm hoping to get larger specimens by feeding more food. Decided it would be a better idea.
    I meant speed up the process not change the gender, I should recheck what I type lol. How long does it take to morph from tads-toads naturally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    I meant speed up the process not change the gender, I should recheck what I type lol. How long does it take to morph from tads-toads naturally?
    Depending on conditions= 1-2.5 months. Speeding up the process= I'm not really sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    Depending on conditions= 1-2.5 months. Speeding up the process= I'm not really sure.
    That's about normal for most frog species I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    That's about normal for most frog species I think.
    I think so. Warmer climate may speed it up. I'm not entirely sure what actually speeds it up. I heard chloramine algea does(SP?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    I think so. Warmer climate may speed it up. I'm not entirely sure what actually speeds it up. I heard chloramine algea does(SP?).
    I don't know what chloramine algea is, is it natural because if not I wouldn't trust it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistly View Post
    I don't know what chloramine algea is, is it natural because if not I wouldn't trust it.
    Its natural. I just forgot the exact word for the type of algea its called. I just recall the word chloramine. :x

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    While I remember here's 2 photos of my woodlice colony I've taken out the sticks, egg carton and most of the leaf litter so you can see it properly. When I took everything out they went straight to their tunnels in the stones so that explains the lack of woodlice.
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