Looking into Pyxie frogs

[MeTree]

Hey guys! Some of you may know me from the pacman frog sub-forum. I reciently got a pacman frog, and I love the little guy alot!

Pacman frog care has been great! Surely easier than I expected. I am trying to breed crickets, so I may have hundreds of crickets soon.

Anyway, I have been watching videos on Youtube about these marvellous Pyxie frogs, and I have seen them at my LFS. They are incredible! I think I really want to look into getting one. Unfortunately, due to lack of funds, I probably will not be able to setup a proper setup until later this summer (if I can get a job). The good news is, I will not accept an animal that I cannot afford to mainain properly.

Anyway...

I was just wondering what you need for a Pyxie. I already have a mister and substrate, and crickets may not be a problem (I don't pay for those anyway, my parents pay for pet food). I just need to know what I need to house them, e.g. [size] container, hygrometer, [size] water dish, thermometer, heat pad, etc.

I am just trying to get an estimate of the cost so that I can set goals. They are really incredible frogs! Truely!

Thanks guys on the Pyxie (sub) forum!

MeTree,

[malepyxiefrog]

Hey guys! Some of you may know me from the pacman frog sub-forum. I reciently got a pacman frog, and I love the little guy alot!

Pacman frog care has been great! Surely easier than I expected. I am trying to breed crickets, so I may have hundreds of crickets soon.

Anyway, I have been watching videos on Youtube about these marvellous Pyxie frogs, and I have seen them at my LFS. They are incredible! I think I really want to look into getting one. Unfortunately, due to lack of funds, I probably will not be able to setup a proper setup until later this summer (if I can get a job). The good news is, I will not accept an animal that I cannot afford to mainain properly.

Anyway...

I was just wondering what you need for a Pyxie. I already have a mister and substrate, and crickets may not be a problem (I don't pay for those anyway, my parents pay for pet food). I just need to know what I need to house them, e.g. [size] container, hygrometer, [size] water dish, thermometer, heat pad, etc.

I am just trying to get an estimate of the cost so that I can set goals. They are really incredible frogs! Truely!

Thanks guys on the Pyxie (sub) forum!

MeTree,

Hi, you would need eco-earth for the substrate, and a water bowl. Keep the temp up to 80F. Pyxies like to burrow but they are active. If yo are getting a baby one then a 10 gallon tank could be good.

[MeTree]

You mean, I don't have to have a thermometer, heatpad, hygrometer, or a 20gL? I already have a huge bag of eco-earth and water dishs are cheap as dirt (or in this case, cocofiber).

That is really helpful, thanks! Does anyone know how much a Pyxie usually cost (kind of like a minimum so I can add $10 for my LFS). I think I may have seen a Pyxie for $30 once at my LFS, is that a good deal? It was kind of fat, though, for a Pyxie lol.

Thanks for the quick response!

[sflyingcow]

Pixie are pretty cheap and easy to care for
i got both mine for 30 a piece at a reptile show...

you can honestly keep them in like a large plastic tub with substrate, water dish and a heating pad as the bare essentials just doing a quick read of the ABF care article will tell you
all you need to know

[sflyingcow]

also i may reccomend breeding cockroaches instead of crickets seems much easier and no smell
I just started breeding them but from looking around everyone says there super easy

[malepyxiefrog]

also i may reccomend breeding cockroaches instead of crickets seems much easier and no smell
I just started breeding them but from looking around everyone says there super easy

Also pyxie frog's can digest cockroaches better.

[MeTree]

also i may reccomend breeding cockroaches instead of crickets seems much easier and no smell
I just started breeding them but from looking around everyone says there super easy

I hear you guys on the whole cockroach deal, and I know that they are easier for a Pyxie to digest, as opposed to crickets. But, however, my parents would not allow cockroahes in our house. That would tip them over the edge to the point where I would never obtain another fish, amphibian, or ever a first reptile.

Guys, if crickets are too hard on Pyxie's stomachs, or if they need cockroaches in their diet, I am simply not going to get them if I can't meet their feeding needs. If crickets wont work, or they need cockroaches, I will stop looking into Pyxie's, because really, what other choice do I have other than being cruel?

[sflyingcow]

cockroaches aren't a must by any means just easier to digest and i beleive healthier but you can dust crickets with calcium and gutload them. I have 2 pyxies that are about 9 months old and have raies them on mainly crickets and mixed in occasional meal worms, red worms and random other food but 95% crickets

[Kevin1]

Ok Crickets are perfectly fine for a pyxie to eat. I don't think it's proven anywhere that pyxies digest roaches better than crickets.

I would not skip out on a thermometer or hygrometer. These things are very helpful no matter what herp you keep. Adults should be housed in a container with a floor space 6-8 times the size of the frog. These frogs spend a lot more time in the water than pacmans and are far superior swimmers. Many people recommend a half and half setup for their pyxies(half water half land) this can be accomplished in a few ways. Most people use a large water dish. A pyxie water dish should be deep enough for the frog to fully submerge but at the same time shallow enough for the frog to be able to stand.
I would recommend a submersible water heater for the dish.
$30 is not a bad price for a pyxie. Just makes sure it's a true giant adspersus.
Many newbies end up with a dwarf which was sold to them as a "giant".

[MeTree]

Glad to hear that Pyxies are Ok with crickets. And so, my research continues.

I think that if I was going to do anything other than a huge water dish (like divide the habitat 50/50), then I think I would have to do glass and silicone. I like the idea of a submersible heater, as I use those in my fish tanks. I imagine a simple 25W heater would work fine.

6 to 8 bigger surface area than frog " long doesn't seem all that big. If you had an adult male Pyxie (9" long) than that is only (9x8) 72" surface area, which is only a 9" by 8" tank (give or take afew inches). That is much, much less surface area than a 10g tank (20"x10"). Maybe I mis-read the formula??

Next questions, what are all the species of ABF? I just learned the other day that there was more than 1. I'd like to know them all, just to know them all.

Thanks guys!

[Kevin1]

Yea i don't think i explained the formula very well here's a diagram i made awhile back to help explain.

[Deku]

Imo for african bullfrogs all I can say is.... don't feed them mice/rats. Uhmmm the soil personally for my frogs I use top soil(natural---make sure it has no pesticides, chems, fertz) its really cheap and very usefull. 1 large bag=3dollars at walmart.
I'd say give them room to dig. Use tongs for feeding or just drop the crickets in(wait for other members to reply on this---theres an african bullfrog expert on board. :P)
I would say you can also refer to the caresheet made for african bullfrogs.

Hopes it helps.(thats all I can give regarding african bullfrogs)

[Kevin1]

Rats and Mice are fine to feed as long as they're fed sparingly.(once every month or 2)

[Deku]

Rats and Mice are fine to feed as long as they're fed sparingly.(once every month or 2)

I thought they were bad to feed to them because of all the high fats and such. I recall a thread on the forum about it. I recall as well a few posts of people saying they only feed em when they are done with hibernation for a little boost.

Not a 100% sure on it. Though I guess I -myself- wouldn't feed one to a frog. But that's my personal opinion on it.

[willtilian]

i feed a mouse a week its healthier because their is no rot because they have a good digesting time and its easier and my frogs look good.

[Deku]

i feed a mouse a week its healthier because their is no rot because they have a good digesting time and its easier and my frogs look good.

hmmm ill look at the threads that I recall saying that you shouldn't feed mice to frogs. lol.
Though my honest opinion is-- if they don't eat it in the wild, maybe its not good for them to eat it at all. After all a frog is not a dog. lol.
http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...-question.html

http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...my-pacman.html

http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...2-pinkies.html

http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...nkie-mice.html

http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...in-update.html

http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...yxie-frog.html
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That's all Iam going to post up. lol. Too many links to read.

And edit: If anything you could feed the 1mice every few months---as a treat. Personally like I said I don't recommend it. I don't think frogs are good at digesting animal fur---but that's just me.

I would ask the member Jo-Anna aka Jace. She's a pro at these frogs.

[willtilian]

just take a look at my boys in the shredded thread theyve grown from those tiny little guys and now theyre 7 1/2" and 7" i then got two more but they where eating like my first two so i decided to sell em.

[Kevin1]

If anyone has any doubts they need to read John's pyxie frog article. It is the best pyxie article I've read anywhere online.
Once a week is a little high, once every few months or never is fine but not necessary
Most people agree one every one-two months is fine.

[Deku]

If anyone has any doubts they need to read John's pyxie frog article. It is the best pyxie article I've read anywhere online.
Once a week is a little high, once every few months or never is fine but not necessary
Most people agree one every one-two months is fine.

I guess that would be fine since its only been fed rarely for it to do any actual damage. But I guess that's just me. I like to keep it natural.

[Kevin1]

I like to keep it natural.

I do too, but it's hard to get food sources that are native to the pyxies natural range or any frog's range for that matter.