WTF lethargic

[happypitbull]

One of my Whites never seems to come out, ever. I have to find him, and hold him and feed him, while the other guy is so active its not funny. He is always out at night, and eats so heartily he even grabs at my hands and fingers, and sometimes it takes me awhile to pry his mouth off my hands! LOL !

So, I know the tank conditions are fine, and the food fine, and I do supplement with vitamins etc.... but this other guy just is not coming around. I am starting to worry about him, and I find he does look a tad thinner than the other frog as well. He does seem to also croak every night as well, a long serious of loud croaks that get longer with every call, very neat sounding, and I have watched him hiding on the back wall while he does this, so I know its him doing the calling.

I plan on taking him to my local vet (after I call to see if they can/will treat frogs) to see if maybe they can treat him for worms in case he is infected with them. I have also not seen any bowel movements from him either, that I can find anyways.

Are there any care sheets here on how to treat for worms that I can take to the vet with me in case he/she is unfamiliar with treating frogs? And if I do get the one frog treated for them, should the other healthy acting frog be treated as well?

[John]

I'll leave the worms answer to Kurt but regarding his energy levels, it is possible he is just a lazy frog - he's used to being hand fed and just goes with it. It's rare for an unhealthy frog to call and eat well. You say he is thinner than you think he should be so a trip to the vet is no harm but Kurt can give you more info on the worms. The problem is that or most people it's hard to get hold of the drugs in question and you really ought to have them administered by a professional (i.e. a vet).

[happypitbull]

Thanks for the response. I just heard him a few minutes ago calling again, and he sure can call! (Does that mean he is for sure male?)

And I would want a vet to give him the meds needed for worms, if he does need worming. I just thought a info sheet on what drugs etc would be helpful to the vet, incase he does not know about frogs.


Thanks
Min

[John]

Thanks for the response. I just heard him a few minutes ago calling again, and he sure can call! (Does that mean he is for sure male?)

Yes it does.

And I would want a vet to give him the meds needed for worms, if he does need worming. I just thought a info sheet on what drugs etc would be helpful to the vet, incase he does not know about frogs.

Read the concluding section of FrogForum.net - Gray Tree Frog Care.

[Kurt]

"Since most gray treefrogs are wild caught in origin, they should be taken to a vet for treatment for internal parasites. He/she can administer a regimen of metronidazole (flagyl) at 50 mg per kg of frog given 3 times at 4 days apart, and a single dose of fenbendazole (panacur) at the same dosage level in between the first and second dose of metronidazole. This will ensure your frogs get the best start in captivity, parasite-free. Commercial dealers to not treat their frogs for parasites."

I can't really say any more about medication that isn't already said here. The only thing I can say more is, what your vet will need from you is a fresh facal sample no more than 24 hours old. It cannot be from any water source, so if the frog deficates in it's water bowl, that sample is no good. If the frog in question is housed with other frogs, all frogs should be tested and treated. All you will need is one sample for the group, but multiple samples would be better. Your vet will need a microscope to make a diagnosis. If your vet has any problem with treating for parasites, PM me with his contact info and I will put him/her in touch with my vet. I don't expect this will be nessisary.

[John]

Wow there's a typo. I'll have to fix that.