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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisa View Post
    Now I don't even know if Albino White's exist, but it would be really cool to know, either way.
    Albinism in White's seems to be a lethal trait, all of the albino tadpoles that I am aware of have died shortly before or during metamorphosis.

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    I've seen some photos on google of albino red eyed tree frogs. Some look pale green, some look yellow, some look that albino colour but it's hard to say if it is true albino or just something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    I've seen some photos on google of albino red eyed tree frogs. Some look pale green, some look yellow, some look that albino colour but it's hard to say if it is true albino or just something else?
    Lor, Ihave only ever seen albino Red Eyes or Horned Frogs (Pacmans). There is another morph in Red Eyes called "Xanthic" as well. But I have never seen or heard of another species that possesses a successful albino gene.

    My next frogs will be Red Eyes, hopefully one of each kind. ^ ^
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    I'm not sure if this would be a similar thing or not...

    Albino horses are not common either. Most "white" horses are actually gray. They have to have all pink skin to be called white, most white haired horses still have gray skin. Some "white" (which they now call cremello) horses have blue eyes. It is very rare to see one that has pink eyes. I am pretty sure the pink skin, pink eyes is the true albino. Maybe it's like that for frogs too? They could look albino but with the blue eyes, making them not exactly albino?

    A thought anyways.

    Edit: Ok I'm a bit off on that lol. I'm not sure if horses can even get pink eyes. But there's still different variations of whites/grays/cremellos.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_%28horse%29

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    But I have never seen or heard of another species that possesses a successful albino gene.
    They are out there. Off the top of my head I remember seeing bullfrogs, clawed frogs, pacific chorus frogs, green tree frogs, several darts (though they seem to be weak and short-lived), Woodhouse's toads, and firebellies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    They are out there. Off the top of my head I remember seeing bullfrogs, clawed frogs, pacific chorus frogs, green tree frogs, several darts (though they seem to be weak and short-lived), Woodhouse's toads, and firebellies.
    Of course Tony, those completely slipped my mind. XD Sorry.

    I didn't know about the AGTFs though, that's some good information.

    And Lor, thanks for the info about the horses. Not sure that frogs and horses could share any traits when we're talking about geneology, but that information is good to have anyway. I really didn't know that about the "white" horses, but I suppose their skin situation is very close to those of dogs and cats.

    That would be my guess. It may also be a trait common to the blue-eyed morph, from the few pics I have seen they seem to be lighter than a typical White's.
    Yeah I have noticed little Paul has sort of a muted color when compared to other green White's as well. This morning he was a grey blue. I'm seeing these frogs as more pastel colored than the other White's I have come into contact with. Very beautiful and unique looking color.

    I may give the breeder a call, you're absolutely right about that he would hopefully know anything about color...thanks for the tip. XD It should have been obvious, duh.
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    I wasn't sure if they'd share the same traits or not but that's about all I know on abnormal white colouration lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Albinism in White's seems to be a lethal trait, all of the albino tadpoles that I am aware of have died shortly before or during metamorphosis.
    I came across that information while I was doing research on White's before I got these frogs to see if there were other different kinds of White's I might want to collect. So you think my frog is just a strange color? I believe if he was any sort of albino he would also be missing pigment in his irises, which would completely get rid of the blue coloration, which I didn't think of when I asked the question earlier.

    He goes from the light peachy color you see there to a darker more orange shade, but he hasn't gotten anywhere near green, brown, or blue, so it's most likely that he's just...a different color? My adult White's is yellow, but he doesn't have this peachy/orange quality that this one shows and is sometimes closer to brown or olive green.

    What's your take on his coloration? Just unique?
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    What's your take on his coloration? Just unique?
    That would be my guess. It may also be a trait common to the blue-eyed morph, from the few pics I have seen they seem to be lighter than a typical White's. You could ask the breeder about it, I'm sure he could give you better info since he is more familiar with them than any of us.

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