Help tree frog with bleeding nostril

[gog]

I just noticed my us green tree frog is acting strange he looks a little lumpy and keeps nodding his head like she is trying to croak being a girl that wont happens it looks like her ribs are the lumps but there are other pimpley ones and i just noticed a drop off blood on one of her nostrils my vet doesnt have a clue about frogs anyone got any ideas i lost a baby whites yesterday too but that was acting drunk just rolled on its back and died i keep the viv clean they get fresh ro water everyday im stuck on this one

[Kisa]

Pictures would really help us to help you on this one, if you can get some pics of your frog, the lumps, and any other abnormalities, also pictures of the enclosure would do.

What is your temp and humidity, do you have any plants? And what size viv are you keeping them in?

How many frogs do you have? And did you have your White's and your Green Tree Frog in the same enclosure?

By Green Tree Frog I'm assuming you mean the American Green Tree Frog?

[gog]

i can email a pic of her direct to you if you email me at t.warrier@ntlworld.com
she is in a 12x12x18 exo viv humidity is about 55 at the min temp of about 70 roughly
yes she shared her viv with the whites as they were bought together i lost one within a week i think they came allready ill because i have kept frogs for years with none of these problems there are 4 usa greens in the viv all small my other big viv that houses two six year old whites has had no problems so its not enviro related as they are in the same room and thanks for taking time to respond i am truly grateful

[Kisa]

It would be much easier if you were able to upload some pictures of her into your album in your profile, as that will allow others to take a look at your frog as well. You can also post your pictures directly into a post by using BB Code (if you don't know what that is than don't worry about it). I don't have any AGTFs myself, but I do keep two White's and two Tiger Legged Monkey Frogs, so I have some general knowledge that isn't specific to this species. My friend Eric (clownonfire) owns one of these frogs though, he may be able to help you if you're looking for specifics.

Also, a general rule of thumb is never to put two or more different species of frogs into the same enclosure. This could be the reason your frogs became ill. I know the pet store may have told you this was ok and had housed them together, but I can assure you they usually don't know what they're talking about in regards to these things. Any breeder will tell you, different species go in different cages. This is a way to make sure your frogs remain healthy throughout the time you have them. Different frogs have different toxins in their skin and just because they can live in basically the same environment does not mean that they mix well together. If a White's were to absorb enough of the toxins from the skin of a AGTF, he would eventually become very sick and may even die, just from this exposure. Also, White's get HUGE, up to 5 inches long in some cases, and may eventually see his viv mate as another bug on the menu. White's are notorious for their eating habits, and I would not be surprised to see my big White's eat my baby White's in a second, as long as it can fit in their mouth, it's on the menu.

I'm just cautioning you because your AGTF could be sick for this very reason: exposure to harmful toxins in the skin of the White's you kept along side him. This may also be the reason why your White's passed away.

And no problem, everyone here on FF is knowledgeable (even if they've just begun the hobby) and most are willing to help you if you ask questions. Don't be afraid to ask either if you see your frogs acting strangely, I posted a thread when I first came here because I was worried that my WTF was "beige" and not brown, so ask away, please!

[gog]

not sure how to get the pics on here but will try. its just gtfs in there now i went out and bought a new viv for the little whites but it died while i was setting it up.my 6yr olds are almost 6 inch long so i would never ever put anything in with them as i have watched them swallow fuzzys in a second no frog would stand a chance with them not even another whites the one on the left is the sick one the other is not

[Kisa]

That was perfect with the pictures so no worries there. I see the differences in the two frogs but in all honesty I don't know what could be wrong.

What I would do right away is find a small container (a critter keeper or something similar) too keep the sick frog in so that the illness doesn't spread throughout the tank. You'll want to isolate the bacteria to make sure your other frogs don't get sick. Other than that I have no other advice...can you describe the symptoms a little more? And are their behavioral symptoms as well? Lethargy, not eating, poop is runny, etc. These could all lead to different diagnoses, so it's best to give all the information you can, and try to be detailed.

Over to the left is an article entitled "Frog First Aid", take a look at that and see if your frog fits any of the symptoms and see if there is a homemade cure for it. My baby White's stopped eating and was acting strange so I put him in a bath of pedialite and he perked right up. It's always worth a look.

And I'm glad you were at least trying to separate them, sorry about the rant, a lot of members house frogs together and are confused when one of them gets sick or dies.

[Leefrogs]

wanted to make a note here for everyone. That if he just had gotten these, I wouldve said that the frog jumped into the glass and got a bloody nose. But because he's had them a while, they're no longer trying to escape. Or if he stored his crickets in a clear cricket keeper where the frogs could see them, and jumped for the prey. This is stressful for the frogs to see their prey and not get to them.

[gog]

yeah crickets have own tank on other side of room when one escapes its a nightmare for the frogs we allways catch them

[Leefrogs]

oh, I had it figured that you knew, as you've kept them for a long time. Just wanted everyone to follow my train of thaught-- and if you were a newby, I'd have those as other answers.

And I wanted to also tell you that if you read article it says that the frog can go into some kind of shock from vacating all it's paristes at once. Just so you know you could still loose your frog and it wasn't the medication.

[gog]

thank you ordered panacur today my vet didnt have it couldnt get pedialite so got diorilyte is blackcurrant flavor do you think this would be ok other than that will have to try baytril

[Leefrogs]

not so sure about the flavored stuff. Hold off till you can find the clear one. You can google making your own electrolite drink. It's really just sugar and salt. Then dilute to 1/10. Or a drop of honey per ounce of warm75-80 degree water. The sugars in there will have a soothing effect on her.

I pray for you and your frog. And I can't think of any other reasons for a bloody nose other than lung worm. She's swolliwing to try and keep them down, if they're traveling into her throat.

[Leefrogs]

sorry for your loss.

[Kisa]

So sorry for your loss, I hope your other frogs do well. D: