Red-Eyed Tree Frog swollen chin?

[Ryan]

Hello all I'm new here and looking for a bit of advice about 2 weeks ago I bought two Red Eyed Tree Frogs, I have them housed in a 20 gallon high tank with coconut substrate and some fake plants. Today when I went to mist the habitat I noticed both of their chins looked swollen like a frog would look when calling but they weren't making noise. I picked one up to see if being moved would make it go away, it didn't. They seem to be healthy otherwise. They were definitely stressed at first but over the past couple of weeks they seem to have settled into their new environment. They are moving regularly at night and seem OK the swollen chin has me a bit worried though. Attached is a picture of what they're looking like right now.

[DonLisk]

Hello all I'm new here and looking for a bit of advice about 2 weeks ago I bought two Red Eyed Tree Frogs, I have them housed in a 20 gallon high tank with coconut substrate and some fake plants. Today when I went to mist the habitat I noticed both of their chins looked swollen like a frog would look when calling but they weren't making noise. I picked one up to see if being moved would make it go away, it didn't. They seem to be healthy otherwise. They were definitely stressed at first but over the past couple of weeks they seem to have settled into their new environment. They are moving regularly at night and seem OK the swollen chin has me a bit worried though. Attached is a picture of what they're looking like right now.

HI Ryan,
What are you feeding them?
Are you finding any poop in the viv?
Pics of the viv might help someone ID a potential issue too.

[Ryan]

Right now they're getting small crickets. Unfortunately I didn't use paper towels to see if they're pooping so I don't know I suppose I could change that though. Sorry about the quality of the pics the light just isn't good enough.

[Leefrogs]

what plants do you have in there? Are they real? If so I need to see them. My WTF swollen up like that from a plant. Also could be impaction, 75 degree water should help. Have you used any sprays, cleaners, or carpet sprinkle stuff? This looks how opal did when she was toxed out. Do you clean the water bowl well atleast once a week? What do u use?

Try spring water for a day. Opals went down right away after a soak and removal of the plant.

[Ryan]

The plants are fake plastic ones. I used filtered dechlorinated tap water for humidity misting only. I'll give the water a try though thank you for your help. I'll clean the bowl as well I have recently but I will again. I use highly diluted vinegar water for cleaning.

[Leefrogs]

Ok, fake plants. You've cleaned the bowl with the perfect cleaner-- as vinager evaporates faster than water. Very good! Hmmm, now were down to outside toxins (sprays and etc.) impaction, and possibly droppsy. But with droppsy the whole body kinda puffs up and they're almost paralized. I'd try the bath of warm water(75-80) and don't stress them by taking them out. Do that if this persists. Just warm spring water in comunal bowl. I don't think reds would get that big coco fiber inside them, but I guess it's possible.

My WTF gets air stuck in it's sack after calling sometimes, it takes a while to go away. Could it be they were calling earlier, and you weren't around? Beleive me, they know before u get back in the room. It is mating season.

[Leefrogs]

any change yet Ryan?

[Ryan]

Unfortunately as of now no. I will continue to soak them to see if that helps. One thing to add as far as strange (or at least strange to me) things that they've been doing lately, sometimes when they are sleeping the eyelids don't close completely, also might be of note is Gary was opening his mouth like he was yawning when I soaked them last. If the problem persists ill be taking them to my local herp vet.

[Leefrogs]

the soaking should help them poop, so is there any? That way we can say it's not impaction. It shouldve changed by now. Any cleaners being used in the room there in? Anything that stinks up the room is very bad for them. This includes like arm n hammer carpet stuff, room sprays, cleaning products, arisol deoderant.....

[Kisa]

The eyelids not closing is fine, they have an inner eye lid that protects the eye while they sleep but also allows them to see their surroundings and check out predators. As far as I know anyway. Here's a pic I found online of one sleeping.

http://travel.mongabay.com/costa_ric..._rica_5850.JPG

That's normal. And for the first few months they may sleep with them open wider, maybe out of paranoia. My WTF slept with one eye open for two weeks after I brought him home.

As for the yawning, could they have been shedding?

[Ryan]

Well I am happy to report that the "swelling" went down after a couple days, They seem to be doing much better they are eating and I have found some of their poop which is good. Thank you so much everyone for your help.