Thinkin' about darts again

[Teh Frog Whisperer]

How and where can I get live moss for my dart frog tank?

[bshmerlie]

Joshs frogs is a great place to get moss and he give you plenty of it.

[clownonfire]

Kisa, your info is right. depending on the morph, you will read them as to be arboreal and/or terrestrial. What they are is bold and they will explore your tank. I read somewhere too that you should not go any lower than a 30 gallon. But as you know with frog info, it can differ.

Cheri's plan is a good one. I will be receiving 5 P. terribilis within the next weeks, froglets. And they will be in my 29 gallon, which as adults would be too small. I'll move some into another tank when the time comes.

And here's what I can add. When I first started with frogs, I bought brand new tanks, which with the cover costs a fortune. After my first two vivs, I started looking on kijiji, which is like Craigslist in Canada, and of course the latter. And since then, I have been buying my tanks on these sites. Just last week I got an amazing 50 gallon cube and a 29 gallon for $20... as a bundle!! Yes, there is work to be done on them, but isn't it part of the fun? We build vivs from scratch... so to clean it, repair it is such a pleasant process... As for finding the perfect deal... When you are at your 8th viv, you know you'll wait for the right ad to pop along...

As for a sexed pair, I had experience similar to what Kisa has described. I asked for one, and got exactly that. Some breeder will be able to give you a male or female if you ask.

And as for moss, a few members here got some from Josh Frog by mail...

Eric

[Kisa]

Kisa, your info is right. depending on the morph, you will read them as to be arboreal and/or terrestrial. What they are is bold and they will explore your tank. I read somewhere too that you should not go any lower than a 30 gallon. But as you know with frog info, it can differ.

Cheri's plan is a good one. I will be receiving 5 P. terribilis within the next weeks, froglets. And they will be in my 29 gallon, which as adults would be too small. I'll move some into another tank when the time comes.

And here's what I can add. When I first started with frogs, I bought brand new tanks, which with the cover costs a fortune. After my first two vivs, I started looking on kijiji, which is like Craigslist in Canada, and of course the latter. And since then, I have been buying my tanks on these sites. Just last week I got an amazing 50 gallon cube and a 29 gallon for $20... as a bundle!! Yes, there is work to be done on them, but isn't it part of the fun? We build vivs from scratch... so to clean it, repair it is such a pleasant process... As for finding the perfect deal... When you are at your 8th viv, you know you'll wait for the right ad to pop along...

Oooh I see, thanks for the info Eric. I know about your P. Terribilis, I can't wait to see pictures! >< 5 new froglets all at once, it's gonna be insane. XD You've really caught the dart frog bug, eh? XD;

I did read that Aratus are one of the bigger and bolder Darts, but I think I have my heart set on them. As long as I can provide the proper space and situation for them, those are the Darts I want to get. I really love Understory Enterprise's "micro spot" morph, it's absolutely stunning! >< But of course this plan probably won't come into action before summer, by then hopefully I'll have a job and the money to spend on a new 30 gallon for a pair of them. Craig's List is a good idea...I might start looking around if I can find a good deal. I have a few months anyway. XD; I can also ask the breeder about tank size, I tend to want to go with whatever was closest to their frog/gallon ratio in their tanks. I know they house a lot more than just a pair at a time, but I thought an 11 gallon would be too small for my Tiger Legs and Mike Novy said that should be alright. If they start showing signs that in fact it is too small, then I will definitely change them out and use the 11 gallon for something else.

Cheri's plan is great, but like I said unfortunately it doesn't fit my situation right now. I'd love to get a pair of baby Darts from LLLReptiles and not have to worry about shipping and all that, but by the time I'm ready to have the Darts they'll be adults (won't they), and like I also said, I really have my heart set on the Aratus. How long does it take Darts to get from froglet to adult size anyway, does anyone know? That info would be really helpful.

And what about my 10 gallon Albino Red Eye or Clown/Hourglass Tree frog idea? I thought it was a good plan, at least I'd be using the viv for an animal that I know could fit comfortably in it, right? O:

I don't know, all this is a long way off and my plans could change from now to then, but right now this is what I feel I want to do. Now if Mr. Wayne would grow a little faster...>> I'm itching to start a viv build of my own. My dad already went out and bought me a can of great stuff from Home Depot, I'm thinking about a themed viv. Gah, I'm so impatient.