Spinning FBT to the right

[Han]

As a human being i expect you to gutload yourself every day, don't you?
What do you think will be the foodvalue of your (daily) excrements?
So if you can't do without crickets for food, you'ld better dust them with
an appropiate supplement. I, with all respect would skip the crickets and change the main menu into earthworms: no more "swimming in circles", no more "cloudy eyes",
no more "red legs", no more..................
What about the environment they live in. Size? Temperature? (get rid of the heather!).
Lighting? Size of waterpart? Ventilation? Soil? Hidingspots? Etc. etc.
No use for bottled water: just tapwater and leave it in a bucket for
some 3 days before using it, cheap and easy and good enough.

regards, Han

[clownonfire]

As a human being i expect you to gutload yourself every day, don't you?
What do you think will be the foodvalue of your (daily) excrements?
So if you can't do without crickets for food, you'ld better dust them with
an appropiate supplement. I, with all respect would skip the crickets and change the main menu into earthworms: no more "swimming in circles", no more "cloudy eyes",
no more "red legs", no more..................
What about the environment they live in. Size? Temperature? (get rid of the heather!).
Lighting? Size of waterpart? Ventilation? Soil? Hidingspots? Etc. etc.
No use for bottled water: just tapwater and leave it in a bucket for
some 3 days before using it, cheap and easy and good enough.

regards, Han

Knowing Han a bit more now, I know he knows a great deal on FBT. Mine are very happy with crickets, and I do know others who use earthworms and it works great too.

One point that I really agree with Han is using tap water. It's much easier, and less expensive. And like he said, let it out for at least 24 hours for dechlorination, more if you can. You'll save money, and it will be perfectly suitable for your frogs.

[Rocko]

Just a comment on the gutloading, fruits carrots and potatoes certainly have some good elements, but I would advise some dark leafy greens in addition, preferably ones with high calcium and low oxalic acid content.

[Leefrogs]

What ones have high acid content!? I give mine nori ( seaweed that for sushi roll) and they love it.

[Rocko]

A good discussion of oxalic acid, its problems and recommended foods can be found here http://www.turtleforum.com/forum/upl...&#entry1048299. My disclaimer being I know high oxalic acid (as the only food supply) is a problem for things that actually consume plants. It may transfer from the crickets or simply reduce their intended calcium content, but I'm not a vet or a animal nutritionist so I can't say with any certainty. As for nori I don't know. The reason I made the recommendation I did, is that dark leafy veggies tend to have the best vitamin and mineral content, but if fed exclusively might have issues with calcium.