My Frogs Came!!!

[Geofrog707]

Update: I tried using the tongs but it took me like 10 mins to catch one cricket and probably more to catch the second one.. They also jumped of the tongs several times and by the time I had the second one ready to feed to the bigger frog, she just declined because it was already pretty much dead from my constant trying to pick the cricket up. So I just gave up and caught a few and put them in the tank. The one who I call a girl so far went crazy. She was on a hunting spree! It looked awesome watching her go in predator mode too! The purple lights gave her a orange color as well. The other frog however was still just sitting there and he wasn't going to get to eat if he didn't get up quicker. So I kind of nudged him to get up and he went straight for the warm top of the tank. The exact opposite to where the crickets were. He seemed petrified of my hand (the larger one doesn't seem to care as much) so I tried to guide him toward the bottom. It failed.. Hopefully he will still get to eat some..

[Kisa]

Haha no, that wasn't a typo, coco husk is the name of the type of substrate you should sue for tree frogs. These substrates are made from the husk of a coconut, hence the name. XD That's ok though, easy mistake for a first-timer to make.

Any temp between 75-80 during the day is ideal for White's so you're ok there, what's the humidity like? I know you're using a fogger but I don't have one myself so I'm not sure exactly how much moisture those can produce at any given time. Try to keep it below 80%, as anything higher could be harmful and breed bacteria.

And that's ok about all the info, I know I wanted to share as well when I brought Bruce Campbell home, he's my pride and joy I couldn't shut my mouth about him. XD

One thing that concerns me though is that you're sort of panicking about them eating. This really isn't necessary, as I said they are new frogs and might take time to adjust before eating. You shouldn't try to force them by moving them from their comfortable position to the ground to eat. The frogs will eat when they're ready, if otherwise the frog seems healthy you should leave him alone until he decides he's hungry. Forcing them to eat could cause undue stress. Also, make sure you feed them at night, these frogs are strictly nocturnal and feeding them during the day could mess up their natural sleep cycle, causing more stress.

I think if you just relax and try to leave them alone as much as possible you're frogs will do great. Remember, the slightest change in a frog could cause their health to drop dramatically. All frogs need time to acclimate, some longer than others. Just be patient and calm down and they'll be fine. If they don't go for food one night, just keep trying until it makes the decision to eat on it's own, that's the best thing to do.

[Geofrog707]

Ok, thank you. I left them alone for a full 8 hours today too! That is a huge accomplishment for me. Although I was at school.. but still. And that is good news about the temps, in the afternoons the temperature gets around that whole range so that is good. I also fed them at night last night so at least I did SOMETHING right. Leaving them alone should be easier now though with my homework and school. Thanks for being understanding about my mistake with the substrate and the whole "talking about my frogs too much" thing though. About the zoo-med fogger, it works really well. I have a decent balance with the light, temp, and fogger so far. I turn the fogger on and the humidity usually won't go passed a certain point (80's) because of the lights, but instead the effects of it last over a long period of time(they usually drop to the 60's or 70;s though). The temp also (as far as I know of) won't go passed 80 degrees but usually stays in the 70's range, although has to get pretty low at night. Maybe that is why the frogs like the purple lights so much. I will take your advice and try to leave them alone more. That is actually a relief hearing you say that (well seeing you type that) the frog will eat when he is ready. Thanks again for all your advice! I really appreciate it!

[Kisa]

Ok, thank you. I left them alone for a full 8 hours today too! That is a huge accomplishment for me. Although I was at school.. but still. And that is good news about the temps, in the afternoons the temperature gets around that whole range so that is good. I also fed them at night last night so at least I did SOMETHING right. Leaving them alone should be easier now though with my homework and school. Thanks for being understanding about my mistake with the substrate and the whole "talking about my frogs too much" thing though. About the zoo-med fogger, it works really well. I have a decent balance with the light, temp, and fogger so far. I turn the fogger on and the humidity usually won't go passed a certain point (80's) because of the lights, but instead the effects of it last over a long period of time(they usually drop to the 60's or 70;s though). The temp also (as far as I know of) won't go passed 80 degrees but usually stays in the 70's range, although has to get pretty low at night. Maybe that is why the frogs like the purple lights so much. I will take your advice and try to leave them alone more. That is actually a relief hearing you say that (well seeing you type that) the frog will eat when he is ready. Thanks again for all your advice! I really appreciate it!

It's totally fine, like I said, we all like hearing about a new member's frogs. I was very giddy when I brought my big guy home I couldn't shut up about him. ^ ^

And trust me, all frogs go through adjustment periods. My baby blue (Bruce Wayne) ate fine when I first got him and then went through a period where he seemed completely disinterested in crickets, a few days passed and I started to get nervous, but when I cleaned his cage all the crickets were gone so he must have been eating after all.

If you have a concern about your frogs and you want some advice, always feel free to PM me with questions before you freak out and do something potentially harmful. I'm not a expert, but I have experience with nursing my big boy back to health and going through some pretty scary ups and downs, and if I can't help you there are plenty of other members who can. If you see changes in your frog's behavior in a negative way, try to post a thread and wait for some replies before you act, unless of course the problem is serious and needs your immediate attention. There is also a really great froggie first aid article to the left there with some quick fixes for little problems that effect frogs on a regular basis and can be a great help if your frog seems down or won't eat or has some minor skin problems, always check that out and try to treat them accordingly before getting too excited and jumping the gun. It's always best to be sure of what's wrong.

Other than that I can tell you really care about your frogs and if you focus your passions in the correct way, you'll make a great frog mommy, I promise. ^ ^

[Geofrog707]

Ok, I will try to get more help before making rash decisions next time. I will try my best to take care of the frogs properly and someday become a good frog Daddy, I think I will pass on the mommy opportunity, lol. I know it sounds like I have said this a lot but thanks again for your advice! And if it hasn't seem like I have then thanks again for your advice anyway, lol

[Kisa]

Ok, I will try to get more help before making rash decisions next time. I will try my best to take care of the frogs properly and someday become a good frog Daddy, I think I will pass on the mommy opportunity, lol. I know it sounds like I have said this a lot but thanks again for your advice! And if it hasn't seem like I have then thanks again for your advice anyway, lol

Nah, we're all frog Mommies, girls AND boys! XD Except maybe John...he can be the Frog King. >>;

But yeah, seriously no problem! You don't have to thank me so much it's the least I could do. I wanna keep your frogs healthy and happy too you know!

[Kisa]

Oh, before I forget! Since you are now the proud...owner (just in case "mommy" makes you uncomfortable. XD)...of some White's, would you kindly join the Tree Frogs group and post your listing in our discussion "Tree Frog Owners Listing"? We're trying to get everyone who has tree frogs to post in there, please~! Here's a link:

http://www.frogforum.net/groups/tree...s-listing.html

Thanks!