They have arrived! Phyllomedusa Tomopterna!

[Kisa]

Hi Kisa, Im very glad to hear that every thing is OK. I think your frogs are very lucky you are there keeper as you take such good care of them.

Thank you so much Ebony, that means a lot coming from you. I would hate it if I hurt my frogs in any way, be it too small tank, feedings, messed up eyes (my poor Brucey, I'm still beaten up about that... ), or seizures. >>

But seriously, thanks, I want to provide them all with the best home I can. ><

Just a quick update: I checked on the two Tomops after lights out and Artemis was awake as soon as it was dark while Apollo remained stationary on his leaf where he has been all day. I'll check on him once more to see if he's moved or woken up, hopefully he'll come around soon, I really wanna see him eat and hear his call. ><

[Tony]

The more you mess with him the more trouble you will have. Constant handling, poking and prodding, etc. are very stressful and stress will kill Phyllomedusines faster than nearly any other family of frogs.

[Kisa]

The more you mess with him the more trouble you will have. Constant handling, poking and prodding, etc. are very stressful and stress will kill Phyllomedusines faster than nearly any other family of frogs.

Thank you for the insight Tony. I have left little Apollo alone since the last time I checked on him (I.e. "handled" him) and do not plan on bringing him out of the viv again unless I absolutely have to. I have even recovered the side of the tank that I left open to make him feel more secure and have limited my checks to once in the morning when I change the water and water the plants with the occasional misting, and once at night at lights out. Sometimes I peak in on them one more time before bed, but I have been trying to keep away. I want them both to adjust well and be happy, I'm trying very hard to be the best frog mommy I can be.

[bshmerlie]

When I got my first red eye Waldo I had him in the same enclosure for about a year. He was active and ate well. Then one day I decided to redecorate his tank. I moved him to a temp tank and spent about a week redoing his permanent tank. When I put him back in he hunkered down on a leaf and went to sleep. I swear he didn't move or eat for about a month. I got nervous and covered all sides of the tank, changed his water every morning even though it didn't look like it had been used and put new crickets in his cricket bowl every night. Then about a month later he snapped out of it and went back to his normal routine. Give your frogs time to adjust. Cover the sides of their tank as you're doing and keep it quiet and dark for them. My red eyes wont wake up at all unless it is pitch black and they definately don't wake up if there is a moonlight bulb on. Once they're awake moving around I can have a little blue led light on to observe them. Remember all we can do for our frogs is provide them the proper environment for them and feed them regularly. The rest is up to them. Just make sure your tank conditions are exactly as Mike has reccomended and then give them time to settle in. My own frog didn't move for a month after just a home remodel. Your guys have been boxed up, bounced around in shipping and then put into a different home. They will be fine just give them time.

[Kisa]

When I got my first red eye Waldo I had him in the same enclosure for about a year. He was active and ate well. Then one day I decided to redecorate his tank. I moved him to a temp tank and spent about a week redoing his permanent tank. When I put him back in he hunkered down on a leaf and went to sleep. I swear he didn't move or eat for about a month. I got nervous and covered all sides of the tank, changed his water every morning even though it didn't look like it had been used and put new crickets in his cricket bowl every night. Then about a month later he snapped out of it and went back to his normal routine. Give your frogs time to adjust. Cover the sides of their tank as you're doing and keep it quiet and dark for them. My red eyes wont wake up at all unless it is pitch black and they definately don't wake up if there is a moonlight bulb on. Once they're awake moving around I can have a little blue led light on to observe them. Remember all we can do for our frogs is provide them the proper environment for them and feed them regularly. The rest is up to them. Just make sure your tank conditions are exactly as Mike has reccomended and then give them time to settle in. My own frog didn't move for a month after just a home remodel. Your guys have been boxed up, bounced around in shipping and then put into a different home. They will be fine just give them time.

Thanks for your story Cheri, that makes me feel much better. >< I guess I'm just so impatient I can't wait until they've settled in and gotten used to me and their new home. They're such amazing creatures! Hiding them behind paper is just hard for me because their so beautiful and unique! >< But I will leave the paper up and give them time, healthy and happy frogs are what I want, and I intend to hold back until I'm sure that's what I have!

[Kisa]

I have some good news everyone!

The night before last, when I posted that I was still worried about little Apollo, I noticed that he was a darker green color, it seemed like there was an agitated air coming off of him, where as Artemis has seemed to have settled in (not all the way, but at least a little) and was a beautiful light sea foamy green. Seeing that Apollo was not doing well worried me, but I stuck to my guns and left him be all day long, I barely even peaked at him. Once in the morning when I noticed his coloration and once before bed time. He hadn't moved all that night or the next day. Artemis was up right after lights out, which is great news, it shows me that she's starting to get used to her new environment and feel more comfortable. Also I have seen her eat with my own two eyes, and that tells me she has an appetite.

Well yesterday morning I checked on Mr. Grumpy Apollo and noticed his color was slightly lighter and he seemed to be sleeping more deeply, with a regular breathing pattern (I notice these things...). And that night (last night) he actually got up and explored! His color had lightened to match Artemis's and I saw him awake and climbing! This is so exciting for me, I was worried it would take him longer to bounce back from his little episode. I haven't seen him eat yet, but I am confident that he's coming around. Today his color is the same pretty seafoam and he's sleeping comfortably back in his new spot on the pothos, up high and next to the light, while his female counter part is in her designated spot on the ground where she was first introduced.

Sorry if this news is trivial, it's important to me and I just wanted to let everyone know things are looking up!

Thanks for reading/caring guys, it helps. ^ ^

[bshmerlie]

As far as coloring goes my red eyes are darker green at night and bright green in the day while they sleep.