They have arrived! Phyllomedusa Tomopterna!

[Kisa]

Congrats, those are cool frogs.

Thanks Kurt! I'm really happy with them, Mike picked out some beautiful frogs. Look forward to pictures as they mature! Their coloration is only going to get better. XD

[Kisa]

Update: Well, I've had Apollo and Artemis (the names I've chosen in case I didn't post it here...) for about six days now and I have to say I'm starting to get just a bit concerned. I don't know if this is normal and I have been thinking about giving Mike Novy a call and speaking with him about it...it's probably ok, but I thought I'd post it hear just in case.

Well...the problem is they've been asleep for almost this whole time. I've covered the sides of the viv with computer paper to keep them from seeing outside so I don't give them a heart attack and mostly left them alone except to check on them every once and a while and see if they've moved.

I've noted only one time for each frog when they've been awake and alert and have moved from their starting position. They've both shed one time each, but other than that, like I said, they'd only moved once and for Apollo I actually had to wake him up. I was worried and wanted to see if either of them were interested in food...

Other than this they seem very healthy, good skin color and health...I can't really say they have bright eyes since I haven't seen much of their eyes when they're awake, but I'm assuming they're eyes are bright. XD;

I may just be jumping the gun...if none of you are concerned I'll just let them be, but if anyone thinks I should call Mike and let him know please tell me. I wanna make sure the frogs are healthy and happy.

Could they be...hibernating? Not sure if frogs do that, but it seems pretty close to the concept...when I woke Apollo to make sure he was still alive it took him an awful long time to open his eyes, I thought this was strange, but he had been sleeping for three days straight without moving so I let it go.

Thanks for any insight guys!

[Tony]

Sounds like pretty typical Phyllomedusa behavior. How late do you stay up at night? It is not uncommon for some of mine (I don't keep tomopterna but several relatives) to sleep until midnight or later, and if I wasn't such a night owl I would swear they never moved from their resting spots. Have you fed them yet? As long as crickets are disappearing and being replaced by feces I wouldn't worry too much.

[Kisa]

Sounds like pretty typical Phyllomedusa behavior. How late do you stay up at night? It is not uncommon for some of mine (I don't keep tomopterna but several relatives) to sleep until midnight or later, and if I wasn't such a night owl I would swear they never moved from their resting spots. Have you fed them yet? As long as crickets are disappearing and being replaced by feces I wouldn't worry too much.

Thanks for replying Tony, this has been really reassuring. ^ ^ The only frog I've kept besides these are White's, and not even that long so...still pretty much a n00b. XD

I don't stay up too late, with daylight savings I've been going to bed around 1 and I can't really see the frogs since I have the sides of the tank covered, but I'm almost positive they haven't moved. I watch them closely in the day time and have basically memorized their locations. (Sorry if that sounds weird, I was diagnosed with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder in my freshman year of high school, so it's kind of hard for me not to notice things like that...) I have seen the female defecate once, but that was the first night she was here with me so I assume it was because she was fed with Mike before he sent them down to me.

Crickets have been disappearing, but it was for a different reason unfortunately. I have some sort of gap in the top of the tank and I have to feed them small crickets until they're big enough to eat adults, so not only is there food hard to see, but they had been creeping out through the screen top and into my bed...and the rest of my room. Pretty uncomfortable situation. Other than that, I have been feeding them consistently every other night and solved my escape problem by sealing the gap with moss, hopefully that's worked. I can't really see the crickets though, so either they're eating them (which still I doubt) or they're just hiding too well for me to see them from my vantage point.

If this is natural of Phyllomedusas then I won't worry unless it becomes extreme and I start to see weight loss...then I will call Mike for sure.

Thanks for your reply again Tony, it sets my mind at ease a little, but if anyone else has anything else to say I'd love to hear advice/suggestions.