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    Aside from Tony's good points, since these will never make it into the frog hobby or to zoos, there's no reason to fear them.
    Im not so sure. Many people have both Annae and Blackeyed tree frogs. It is a shame too as this will give many ideas when both species really do need to be bred andmanaged as they are both critically endangered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poison beauties View Post
    It is a shame too as this will give many ideas when both species really do need to be bred and managed as they are both critically endangered.
    Let's face it, hobbyists, even tree walkers int., are not a part of any real management program and are very unlikely to ever be. I know TWI has aspirations of playing a real role in conservation but frankly that's a pipe dream. The only useful role they play, so far, is sending money to serious organizations that need it.
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    What many do not understand is our hobby is just a huge group of small business's. If we want to change anything its got to be the hobby first. We need to start with unneeded imports and better quality care from the herp shops and better management of whats here.

    As for the release of that bit of info it will further promote ideas of what can be bred to what. Give it till the end of the year there will be full clutches of them for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poison beauties View Post
    As for the release of that bit of info it will further promote ideas of what can be bred to what. Give it till the end of the year there will be full clutches of them for sale.
    I doubt that. It has been no secret that A. annae and A. moreletii are very closely related, A. annae wasn't even described as a distinct species until 1963. If someone wanted to do this cross for commercial purposes it could have been done without this study. I only know of one person who is currently breeding both species and I doubt he will be making hybrids of them.

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    Lets hope that is the truth. There are plenty of hobbyists though who are raising both species. All the annae are at breeding age now.

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    No one has talked about whether or not the hybrids are fertile. I doubt they are.
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    No one has talked about whether or not the hybrids are fertile. I doubt they are.
    Why do you think that? Being so closely related that they may actually just be one polymorphic species I would expect the opposite. I'm curious to know if they plan to continue with sibling and back crosses to test fertility.

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