thank you, this the second weird death ive had, the last one was a green tree frog, which inturn kill a 6 year old yellow spotted salamander and a wood frog, im learning fast that it is much easyer to take care of toads and frogs from the wood, than it is to buy them from a store, and theres less infections too, there where no mites that time tho all of the frogs slowley went limp and fell alseep, then died,