Need advice, again.

[Dog Shrink]

I'm glad you found info useful, and I believe it was the magnificent tree frog that has been contributing to the cure of cacer that I read about http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Fears+...es.-a060553207. Not only has the Whites been used in HIV research but they believe that several tree frogs contain the peptide that is assisting in the blocking/killing of the virus. http://www.examiner.com/small-pets-i...-aids-research

Find something new about our cold blooded friends every day aye THIS imo is why conservation is so important. You never know how mother nature can benefit the human race, but then again it opens up a whole 'nother realm of bastardizing nature for our gain. I think it's a huge clue that mother nature made them resistant and us not... frogs will one day rule the world

[Kisa]

I'm glad you found info useful, and I believe it was the magnificent tree frog that has been contributing to the cure of cacer that I read about http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Fears+...es.-a060553207. Not only has the Whites been used in HIV research but they believe that several tree frogs contain the peptide that is assisting in the blocking/killing of the virus. http://www.examiner.com/small-pets-i...-aids-research

Find something new about our cold blooded friends every day aye THIS imo is why conservation is so important. You never know how mother nature can benefit the human race, but then again it opens up a whole 'nother realm of bastardizing nature for our gain. I think it's a huge clue that mother nature made them resistant and us not... frogs will one day rule the world

Thanks for all these articles Kel they're really something! And I agree with you about frogs ruling the world, they're truly wonderful creatures. I wish more people could respect them and the others animals that have their environments threatened every day by our selfish needs. I live in an urban area where the closest forest is at the library and even that has been controlled and fashioned to fit the needs of the "community" that lives around it. I wish I was lucky enough to even have a front yard, but the closest thing I have is a concrete balcony and a driveway. The world needs as much greenery as it can get, especially in heavily populated areas. The air out here is heavy with pollution and dirt and it only gets worse with each passing day. There is only so much one person can do...

But off that morbid topic, go frogs!

[DonLisk]

Nice how informative this thread has become. Some great reading.

As for the bowl.. ... I use it with my Red Eyes all the time. I rarely have crickets running around the viv and they know where to eat.

I do it occasionally for the whites but one frog will eat every cricket so I just toss crickets in and let them hunt them now.

Glad to see Bruce is doing well :-)

[Kisa]

Nice how informative this thread has become. Some great reading.

As for the bowl.. ... I use it with my Red Eyes all the time. I rarely have crickets running around the viv and they know where to eat.

I do it occasionally for the whites but one frog will eat every cricket so I just toss crickets in and let them hunt them now.

Glad to see Bruce is doing well :-)

Yeah for real Don. XD

I'm worried about using the bowl once I get another WTF in the viv with Bruce but hopefully by then I'll have a rebuilt viv with less hiding places for crickets and more ambush spots for the frogs. XD

Yeah I'm really glad he's doing well too, there's nothing more rewarding than nursing a sick frog back to health and reaping the benefits. ^ ^

[Dog Shrink]

Maybe once you get the new viv built you could still possibly use thedish for Bruce if he seems fond of it, and scatter a few free range crix for the new guy to hunt and catch. Maybe he'll teach Bruce how to hunt

And thank you for the compliment Don... or at least I'll take it as one referring to how informative the thread has become. I think the questions were really good and worthy of a deeper explanation that just yes or no. I'm the type that likes to give proof with my answers for future readers to see the research for themselves.

[Kisa]

Maybe once you get the new viv built you could still possibly use thedish for Bruce if he seems fond of it, and scatter a few free range crix for the new guy to hunt and catch. Maybe he'll teach Bruce how to hunt

And thank you for the compliment Don... or at least I'll take it as one referring to how informative the thread has become. I think the questions were really good and worthy of a deeper explanation that just yes or no. I'm the type that likes to give proof with my answers for future readers to see the research for themselves.

That's a good idea Kel maybe I'll try that out. I plan on leaving the new frog alone once he gets here, I was a little too touchy and looky with Bruce when I first brought him home. I hadn't properly read up on covering the cage walls and letting the animals acclimate. I was so excited I wanted to be up in his face all the time, and that probably lead to some of the problems he had with his health. At least his appetite didn't go completely down the drain, THAT would have been scary since he's always been such a crazy eater. But when the new frog gets here I'm going to have him in Bruce's old "sick tank", properly sterilized of course, on paper towel substrate so his bowel movements, appetite, and health are easy to monitor for the first thirty days. I think all I'm going to put in there at first is a water bowl, a log to hide in, and maybe a stick to climb just in case he gets too bored. It's going to be a hard run trying not to bother him and watch him all the time, but I'm gonna try my best.

When I first got Bruce I set the crickets free in his viv (it was a small 10 gallon) and they had nowhere to hide so he had no problem hunting but when he was sick I wanted to watch his appetite and weight closely so I started trying a more "hand fed" approach, which is probably why it's hard for him to hunt now. As soon as I fix that gap in the background and make it harder for the crix to hide I'm going to set them free in there and see what Bruce does. His eyes have healed quite well, so I don't forsee any problems with him seeing the food.

Oh, and this is totally unrelated, but if I do get a new frog and quarantine him for thirty days, what do you guys think a good size would be before I put him into the viv with Bruce, so theirs no "frog eat frog" action, if you know what I mean. >>

Right now Bruce is 2 1/2' but he might get bigger before it's time to introduce the new white's, I'm not foreseeing him growing any more than a half and inch in that time. It is safe to assume I can put the new comer in when he's bigger than Bruce's mouth and won';t be able to be eaten, even if Bruce tries, or should I wait until they're roughly the same size in body?

Thanks, I know I might have a lot of stupid questions, but that's what these threads are for right? Communicating and learning. ^ ^;

And that's a very good quality to have Kel, putting up articles and information to back up your claims is always the sign of someone whose done their research and knows what they're talking about.

[Dog Shrink]

Why thank you Kisa... that is why I know what I do know is because I do research... If I don't know the answer I do my best to find out and give proof. I'm an animal behavior specialist (specialise in canines) and have had my credentials called into question several times on other dog forums (which is why I don't go to them anymore, not enough room for their egos and my intelligence ) so in order to avoid arguement or BS calling I find it best to be able to back up whatever you say.

As far as when to put Bruce and his new friend together they really aught to be pretty close in size in order to avoid the whole frog eat frog thing I would say.