Need advice, again.

[Dog Shrink]

I really don't think what ever is ailing you will contaminate your frog. There are very few diseases that are zoonotic simply because what can live at our body temperature won't live in a frog's body temperature. I'm pretty sure that the majority of things that can be zoonotic are more like parasites, tapeworms, ringworm, stuff like that. Rhino virus and the like... not so much.

[DonLisk]

Put your crickets in a bowl inside his viv so they have little chance of getting enough traction to climb the sides or jump out of the bowl. The just remove the bowl after Bruce eats.

Its not fool proof and occasionally some escape but at lease he will have a place to go get them when hes ready.

[Kisa]

Put your crickets in a bowl inside his viv so they have little chance of getting enough traction to climb the sides or jump out of the bowl. The just remove the bowl after Bruce eats.

Its not fool proof and occasionally some escape but at lease he will have a place to go get them when hes ready.

Oh my gosh now I feel stupid. :/ Thanks Don, I don't know why I didn't think of this. >< When I thought feeding dishes I thought of a smaller container with no walls to keep the crickets in. DUH. I'm going to try that tonight. If no one has objections I'll update this thread with Bruce's success!

IK even have the perfect little bowl...geez. >>

[Kisa]

I really don't think what ever is ailing you will contaminate your frog. There are very few diseases that are zoonotic simply because what can live at our body temperature won't live in a frog's body temperature. I'm pretty sure that the majority of things that can be zoonotic are more like parasites, tapeworms, ringworm, stuff like that. Rhino virus and the like... not so much.

Thanks Kel, this is exactly why I posted this thread. I wasn't positive but I thought somehow that my cold could ail Bruce in someway, your reply has eased my mind on that matter.

Last night my boyfriend picked Bruce up and I lost it on him because he is still getting over the same cold, I told him he should never hold Bruce if he's sick/ Just an over reaction on my part, guess I have to go apologize now. >>

Quickly, I heard that staph can also transmit to frogs, is this true? Just curious.

[Dog Shrink]

That is a tough one.. there are several different strains of staph infection Saphylococcus aureus (MRSA) being the most commonly seen. Several different frog species defend themselves against invading pathogenic microorganisms by producing and secreting antimicrobial peptides.
"A manner of self preservation against invasive disease such as staph. The results showed that the frog skin secretions has significant antimicrobial effect against MRSA. The range of inhibition zone for MRSA was the same as (20mm) Vancomycin in DISK method. In Minimum Inhibitory Concentration method, for MRSA, the tube 1/8 was positive." http://www.celljournal.org/library/u...cle/Abbasi.pdf

Finding this specifically for whites tree frogs I wouldn't think stpah would be a concern. Snip from a book called "Frogs By David Badger, John Netherton"


I don't think staph is a worry for your whites. It is very unusual for humans to pass disease to herps and herps to humans. It is more likely to have a zoonotic issue when dealing with warm blood to warm blood species and even at that it is very rare.

I do think you owe the BF an apology.

[Kisa]

That is a tough one.. there are several different strains of staph infection Saphylococcus aureus (MRSA) being the most commonly seen. Several different frog species defend themselves against invading pathogenic microorganisms by producing and secreting antimicrobial peptides.
"A manner of self preservation against invasive disease such as staph. The results showed that the frog skin secretions has significant antimicrobial effect against MRSA. The range of inhibition zone for MRSA was the same as (20mm) Vancomycin in DISK method. In Minimum Inhibitory Concentration method, for MRSA, the tube 1/8 was positive." http://www.celljournal.org/library/u...cle/Abbasi.pdf

Finding this specifically for whites tree frogs I wouldn't think stpah would be a concern. Snip from a book called "Frogs By David Badger, John Netherton"


I don't think staph is a worry for your whites. It is very unusual for humans to pass disease to herps and herps to humans. It is more likely to have a zoonotic issue when dealing with warm blood to warm blood species and even at that it is very rare.

I do think you owe the BF an apology.

WOW thanks that was really informative. O:

This kind of eases my mind, I had a problem with staph a while ago (which has since cleared up with antiobiotics) and it suddenly popped into my mind a few days ago while I was checking Bruce (his tummy is seeming a little bloated lately, not sure if this is something to be worried about or not, sometimes it seems like he's full of air and other times he seems fine, it could just be my overactive imagination).

I heard some other things about White's having potentially healing properties when it comes to HIV, this could be a misunderstanding I'm not sure I read it somewhere online before I picked up Bruce while I was doing my research. Amphibians are truly wonderful animals, they have so much to offer in the pet industry and otherwise and I was surprised to learn that they make great companions, at least in my case. My dad didn't want me to get a frog because he said they were "boring" and would just sit around all day doing nothing but taking care of Bruce has been a joy, I can't wait to expand my collection. ><

Thanks again, I suppose what I thought was a simple question was a bit loaded. XD;

[Kisa]

Hey guys, just an update.

I tried Don's bowl idea and it worked beautifully, at least this time. At first I was worried that the bowl I had was too deep, so I buried it in the coco fiber where the water bowl was (I took it out as there is not a lot of space in the viv on the ground otherwise) and tilted it slightly toward the inside of the viv. I was worried at first that the crickets would escape but they didn't, they just slid around in the bowl until Bruce found them (I think he was confused by the bowl at first but eventually he caught on). He ate all three and then went on his marry way, I even found a congratulatory poop! (This is exciting because Bruce was recently constipated, for those who are confused.)

Thanks Don, I think I'm going to be using the bowl from now on, worked like a charm and the crickets were helpless. XD

[Dog Shrink]

I'm glad you found info useful, and I believe it was the magnificent tree frog that has been contributing to the cure of cacer that I read about http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Fears+...es.-a060553207. Not only has the Whites been used in HIV research but they believe that several tree frogs contain the peptide that is assisting in the blocking/killing of the virus. http://www.examiner.com/small-pets-i...-aids-research

Find something new about our cold blooded friends every day aye THIS imo is why conservation is so important. You never know how mother nature can benefit the human race, but then again it opens up a whole 'nother realm of bastardizing nature for our gain. I think it's a huge clue that mother nature made them resistant and us not... frogs will one day rule the world

[Kisa]

I'm glad you found info useful, and I believe it was the magnificent tree frog that has been contributing to the cure of cacer that I read about http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Fears+...es.-a060553207. Not only has the Whites been used in HIV research but they believe that several tree frogs contain the peptide that is assisting in the blocking/killing of the virus. http://www.examiner.com/small-pets-i...-aids-research

Find something new about our cold blooded friends every day aye THIS imo is why conservation is so important. You never know how mother nature can benefit the human race, but then again it opens up a whole 'nother realm of bastardizing nature for our gain. I think it's a huge clue that mother nature made them resistant and us not... frogs will one day rule the world

Thanks for all these articles Kel they're really something! And I agree with you about frogs ruling the world, they're truly wonderful creatures. I wish more people could respect them and the others animals that have their environments threatened every day by our selfish needs. I live in an urban area where the closest forest is at the library and even that has been controlled and fashioned to fit the needs of the "community" that lives around it. I wish I was lucky enough to even have a front yard, but the closest thing I have is a concrete balcony and a driveway. The world needs as much greenery as it can get, especially in heavily populated areas. The air out here is heavy with pollution and dirt and it only gets worse with each passing day. There is only so much one person can do...

But off that morbid topic, go frogs!