Spikey bone growth on lip, wth?

[Malachi]

Is the jaw formed wrong? teeth?

[willtilian]

besides the growth everything else looks very healthy

[willtilian]

actaully looking at those pics, it almost looks like a bottle cap in his mouth

[onedge30]

Yes, everything inside the mouth looks normal. He is eating find and active. Yes, Giant African Bullfrog.

Ok, he sure was not happy, but here are a few more pictures. One of him front straight on. Others from inside his mouth.

[Dog Shrink]

That is really peculiar. The bony protrusion isn't invasive into the mouth cavity... only going outward from the face and not inward. Is there any chance this might be a bot fly larvae (or another invasive insect type parasite thing?) that has burrowed into his face? What are you doing to treat it? If you want to see if it is a parasite coat the area with something like petroleum jelly (since I don't think you can use rubbing alcohol on frogs) to suffocate whatever might be living in there then it will either back out (before it suffocates) or die and you can remove it. I have seen this happen a lot to rabbits so I'm not sure the protocol would be the same for amphibs... I'm still learning about them.

I'm curious, how could early MBD cause a bony growth this far into the animals growth cycl esp. if the MBD has been rectified? Excessive calcium growth to make up for the shortage when it was young?

Kind of on that same note tho... is there any chance it could be gout or psudogout? I know with pseudogout it is calcium deposits that will grow, insted of uric acid crystals, so it could present like a bony solid anchored protrusion but I thought it usually affected joints but if the face is made up of several bony plates it could be possible techinically. Here's a great link for more info http://www.triciaswaterdragon.com/gout.htm

http://www.cabi.org/cabdirect/FullTe...0093069421.pdf

[willtilian]

cauld it even be a rodent wound from the old owner?

[onedge30]

@Kel - I do not believe that it is any type of invasive parasite. There is no openings, puss or weeping fluids. The growth is completely solid and anchored to the bone.

MBD can have many weird affects long after. It changes all sorts of functions in the body. How nutrients are allotted. How the bone grows, bends, changes. Even affecting the nervous system.

Usually not in an excessive growth formation, but I don't know.

I do not believe it could be a gout formation. Gout is usually a collection of crystals at a joint. This joint usually has some type of blood flow to gather crystals.

@Will - It could be some type of old injury. No idea what would cause this type of formation.