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    I'm sorry I can't help you with this Eric..Hopefully someone will have some ideas. Hope fully your frog is just getting use to the new surroundings.

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    I wish I could provide specific help, but i'll try to answer some of the questions you posed.
    She may be calmer now, or more comfortable at least, I can't really say. However, it is unlikely that she is satiated and that is why she isn't eating. Frogs tend to just eat until there isn't food. Fruit flies probably aren't stressful. Crickets can most definitely be annoying, but I doubt your fruit flies will cause an annoyance. The most likely culprit is the terrarium environment change. Anytime you make a change, even if it is to a "better" environment, it can lead to stress or trigger behavioral changes. It may be helpful to know what the environment was like before the change?

    Best,
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    could be just plain old winter slow down. I think, frogs really feel those attic blasts, dispite our controled environment, it may be confusing to a frog to not match it's surroundings with instincts feelings. I thinkits just normal adjustment. Mine know when that blast is comming, they try to get in the tub right away instead of meandering around on those cold nights. And they do it right at lights out. They know the barometric pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylototriton View Post
    I wish I could provide specific help, but i'll try to answer some of the questions you posed.
    She may be calmer now, or more comfortable at least, I can't really say. However, it is unlikely that she is satiated and that is why she isn't eating. Frogs tend to just eat until there isn't food. Fruit flies probably aren't stressful. Crickets can most definitely be annoying, but I doubt your fruit flies will cause an annoyance. The most likely culprit is the terrarium environment change. Anytime you make a change, even if it is to a "better" environment, it can lead to stress or trigger behavioral changes. It may be helpful to know what the environment was like before the change?

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    Thank you Alex. For the satiated part, it makes sense. I know my frogs are relentlessly hunting their food down.

    She seems to be more active today. It might just be me too... The R. ventrimaculata are just so active that anything in comparison seems dormant...

    The old terrarium was similar, but without moss, and hydroballs. It was more of a layer of coconut husk, and she would always more only around her cocounut HUT. Now she has a cork bark that she likes to hide in, or climb on, a piece of malaysian wood which she also enjoys hiding under, and a large are where she walks around.

    She has been eating this morning.

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    Eric

    these toads are no where near as active as some of the darts I have kept. Mine do like to climb but sometimes they stay there all day. of the 5 I have I can normally only see one or two out in the open. It also sounds like the humidity may be just a bit to high. I keep mine more around 60%. I dont mist often at all but I do put in a shallow wate dish for them every so often so they can splash around. I have never fed crickets to them. lots of flys, springs, and woodlice. I have some pretty plump females and the size difference is very noticable from male to female.
    you said "she" is around 7 months? is someone up there breeding them and getting them out of the water? not many in the US yet, maby one or two with cb for sale.
    these little guys seem to be pretty stress free IMO. even with a move to a new tank, I never noticed any difference in personality.

    hope that helps a bit.

    there was an incredable disscusion on dendroboard that seth joined in on that was pretty long but I cant seem to find it now it was not to long after the feb 2010 imports started to come in.

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    Eric

    these toads are no where near as active as some of the darts I have kept. Mine do like to climb but sometimes they stay there all day. of the 5 I have I can normally only see one or two out in the open. It also sounds like the humidity may be just a bit to high. I keep mine more around 60%. I dont mist often at all but I do put in a shallow wate dish for them every so often so they can splash around. I have never fed crickets to them. lots of flys, springs, and woodlice. I have some pretty plump females and the size difference is very noticable from male to female.
    you said "she" is around 7 months? is someone up there breeding them and getting them out of the water? not many in the US yet, maby one or two with cb for sale.
    these little guys seem to be pretty stress free IMO. even with a move to a new tank, I never noticed any difference in personality.

    hope that helps a bit.

    there was an incredable disscusion on dendroboard that seth joined in on that was pretty long but I cant seem to find it now it was not to long after the feb 2010 imports started to come in.
    Thank you Eric. I will bring down the humidity level. I will only mist once a day. And like you, I do keep a shallow water dish, which I've seen her enjoy a few times.

    As for breeding, yes. There are breeders in Montreal. I've been asked a few times lately as I know they are pretty rare on the market. If you want to, I could always provide you with the breeder's information. He is attached to the Montreal Biodome.

    I wish I could find that discussion. Before I got my BB, I must have read and re-read Seth's article, which as of today is still bookmarked.

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    maby go to every other day with the misting depending on how much ventilation you have on the viv. I too must have read seths articale maby a half a dozen times.
    If I come accross that thread I will send it to you for sure.
    I can only imagine that it will not be long before a few others have success here with them. there seems to be quite a few experienced frog keepers in the US working with them now. One in particular has had quite a few eggs go to tad stage but has had problems with the tads dieing off in bulk.

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    Hi, Eric.

    Can you give us an update about your BBTs? There's some good info out there, just not a lot of it.

    I recently acquired 3 from Little Ray's in Ottawa, who'd had them for the past year. I'd been in a few times, getting supplies for my kids's new geckos, and each time took a look around. The BBTs would come out of their hide to see who was sticking their face in front of their tank; they're curious! I was won over after the second visit and decided to buy them.

    Ray's only has "adoptions" (rescues and so on) and has a policy that you must show proof of being prepared to adopt. It was suggested that I could bring back a photo of the terrarium, etc. as proof, but I was aware of the policy and said, "I brought my set-up with me, in the back of the van, with the heating up to the correct levels, something to eat, some water...." They were surprised, took a look, couldn't find any fault and agreed. Then, as we went to get the toads, I saw that there were three; I'd thought there were only two. I couldn't leave one there all alone, so bought all three.

    1 male and 2 females I think, judging by the sizes. So, in keeping with their (possibly) Argentine roots, Miguelito, Susanita and, of course, Mafalda.

    The male and one female come out every morning (still curious, not afraid) and hunt down their pinheads quite efficiently, but the other female remains in the hide, under the moss, not sure if she's eating or not (the crickets do wander into the hide).

    My temps seem to stay around 20 to 22 C and humidity around 80%.

    TIA!

    Mike T.
    Ottawa.

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