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You mean like Manchester? LOL http://www.reptileexpo.com/nefirst.htm Oh and Black Jungle is in Western MA. And there is the New England Frog Group. New England is one of the better places to be if you're into frogs.

And to answer Kisa's question. There are three species of tiger-legged monkey frog, Phyllomedusa hypochodrialis, P. azurea, and P. tomopterna. The first two are small and very similar to each other, at one time they were considered the same species. The third is bigger and more spectacular, and is often called the super-tiger-legged monkey frog. In the first two the barring is limited to the limbs, but in the third its also found on the sides of the frog. P. hypochondrialis (northern tiger-legged) and the P. tomopterna can be kept similarly to Agalychnis callidryas, the red-eyed leaf frog. P. azurea (southern tiger-legged) should be kept drier than the other two.
I knew you were the man to ask about these things Kurt. XD I saw you post a similar description of the tiger-legs on a different thread, but thank you for the deeper insight.

The P. tomopterna is what I'm looking for then, I see pictures of those the most on the internet and they are GORGEOUS. If I had known about these frogs before WTFs I might have started off on these instead, even though WTFs are probably my favorite frog. The coloration on the tiger-legs is just breath-taking.

I read in some care articles (which are really hard to find online btw) that they can be kept in slightly similar conditions to Dumpies, which would be ideal for me so I don't get confused on temps and humidity and all that jazz. Should I read the care article for Agalychnis callidryas and follow those guidelines if I end up getting one of the beauties? What I mean is, is that care sheet close enough to the care guidelines for the P. tomopterna or are there any modifications I should make?

Also, I read that a 10gal tall is big enough for tiger-legs, is that true of all three species or does the P. tomopterna need a bigger enclosure? I might get two and go for a 20gal tall, just to make sure I'm not cramping the little guys.

One more thing Kurt, sorry for all the questions, I want to be well prepared before I take one of these frogs into my home, especially after what happened with Bruce. I read somewhere that these frogs are represented by a wild caught group, is that true for P. tomopterna as well? I would really like to stay away from WC frogs just in case of disease and stress factors, it would be terrible if I got one WC and it died on me from the shock.

And about the reptile breeders, too bad I'm all the way in sunny southern california, not the best place if you're looking for frogs. Although there is a place down here not too far from my house that sells exotics of all kinds, tortoises, tarantulas, monitors, toads, frogs, snakes, chameleons, EVERYthing, called Prehistoric Pets. I am weary of buying from them though because I don't know about their return/sick animal policies and walking around in there and seeing some of the size enclosures they keep their stock in is just sad. They had a box turtle in a cage so small the poor thing couldn't even turn around! But I suppose they just don't have the space.

I might just end up buying my next frog from there, even though they're selling Dumpies for twice the price of what I've seen everywhere else, but with shipping costs it'd end up being cheaper than buying one online. I don't know, I guess I have some decisions to make.