Josh's Frogs and Tiger-Legged Monkey Tree Frogs?

[Kurt]

You mean like Manchester? LOL http://www.reptileexpo.com/nefirst.htm Oh and Black Jungle is in Western MA. And there is the New England Frog Group. New England is one of the better places to be if you're into frogs.

And to answer Kisa's question. There are three species of tiger-legged monkey frog, Phyllomedusa hypochodrialis, P. azurea, and P. tomopterna. The first two are small and very similar to each other, at one time they were considered the same species. The third is bigger and more spectacular, and is often called the super-tiger-legged monkey frog. In the first two the barring is limited to the limbs, but in the third its also found on the sides of the frog. P. hypochondrialis (northern tiger-legged) and the P. tomopterna can be kept similarly to Agalychnis callidryas, the red-eyed leaf frog. P. azurea (southern tiger-legged) should be kept drier than the other two.

[DonLisk]

Wow, thanks Kurt... look like I have a road trip ahead of me :-)
I'm building a new viv for the dart frog and gonna need some supplies.

[bshmerlie]

Mike from Rainforest Junky's - Home breeds both the hypochodrialis and the tomopterna. He is THE place to go for tree frogs. He usually has both juvies and adults and has great prices. Remember the two most important things when selecting a new frog...1. Buy captive bred only. 2. Buy from the most reputable BREEDER you can find and skip the middle man. You can't go wrong with Rainforestjunkys.

[Kisa]

Mike from Rainforest Junky's - Home breeds both the hypochodrialis and the tomopterna. He is THE place to go for tree frogs. He usually has both juvies and adults and has great prices. Remember the two most important things when selecting a new frog...1. Buy captive bred only. 2. Buy from the most reputable BREEDER you can find and skip the middle man. You can't go wrong with Rainforestjunkys.

Oh thanks for the website Cheri I'll definitely take a look at his stock/prices. So I'm guessing you've had good experiences with Mike in the past then? It's always good to get a referral based on positive feedback. XD

My questions is would he be able to ship out to Orange county? Not sure what policies are with certain online breeders/shops, but I'll definitely take a look.

I really want to get my next frogs from breeders as well, petsmart did not do good things for me. >> Never buying from a chain store AGAIN. And yes, I know about buying captive bred, I hope I never have to have the experience of buying a wild caught animal.

Thanks. ^ ^

[clownonfire]

Kisa, I'm quite excited for you. You take great care of Bruce, I'm happy you want to add more... Looking forward to see what's in the future!

[Kisa]

Kisa, I'm quite excited for you. You take great care of Bruce, I'm happy you want to add more... Looking forward to see what's in the future!

Me too! I can't wait to get set up for my own menagerie!

I hope one day (when I move out and get my own place) I can have a whole room to fill with exotic froggie treasures. ^ ^

[Leefrogs]

I'd love a victorian green house all filled with plants and free range frogs. Like just a big bed in the middle. Maybe just all whites and tiger legs. Others would be too small and be eaten, even if it was a huge space, wait, crickets in the bed just ruined the thaught.

[Kisa]

You mean like Manchester? LOL http://www.reptileexpo.com/nefirst.htm Oh and Black Jungle is in Western MA. And there is the New England Frog Group. New England is one of the better places to be if you're into frogs.

And to answer Kisa's question. There are three species of tiger-legged monkey frog, Phyllomedusa hypochodrialis, P. azurea, and P. tomopterna. The first two are small and very similar to each other, at one time they were considered the same species. The third is bigger and more spectacular, and is often called the super-tiger-legged monkey frog. In the first two the barring is limited to the limbs, but in the third its also found on the sides of the frog. P. hypochondrialis (northern tiger-legged) and the P. tomopterna can be kept similarly to Agalychnis callidryas, the red-eyed leaf frog. P. azurea (southern tiger-legged) should be kept drier than the other two.

I knew you were the man to ask about these things Kurt. XD I saw you post a similar description of the tiger-legs on a different thread, but thank you for the deeper insight.

The P. tomopterna is what I'm looking for then, I see pictures of those the most on the internet and they are GORGEOUS. If I had known about these frogs before WTFs I might have started off on these instead, even though WTFs are probably my favorite frog. The coloration on the tiger-legs is just breath-taking.

I read in some care articles (which are really hard to find online btw) that they can be kept in slightly similar conditions to Dumpies, which would be ideal for me so I don't get confused on temps and humidity and all that jazz. Should I read the care article for Agalychnis callidryas and follow those guidelines if I end up getting one of the beauties? What I mean is, is that care sheet close enough to the care guidelines for the P. tomopterna or are there any modifications I should make?

Also, I read that a 10gal tall is big enough for tiger-legs, is that true of all three species or does the P. tomopterna need a bigger enclosure? I might get two and go for a 20gal tall, just to make sure I'm not cramping the little guys.

One more thing Kurt, sorry for all the questions, I want to be well prepared before I take one of these frogs into my home, especially after what happened with Bruce. I read somewhere that these frogs are represented by a wild caught group, is that true for P. tomopterna as well? I would really like to stay away from WC frogs just in case of disease and stress factors, it would be terrible if I got one WC and it died on me from the shock.

And about the reptile breeders, too bad I'm all the way in sunny southern california, not the best place if you're looking for frogs. Although there is a place down here not too far from my house that sells exotics of all kinds, tortoises, tarantulas, monitors, toads, frogs, snakes, chameleons, EVERYthing, called Prehistoric Pets. I am weary of buying from them though because I don't know about their return/sick animal policies and walking around in there and seeing some of the size enclosures they keep their stock in is just sad. They had a box turtle in a cage so small the poor thing couldn't even turn around! But I suppose they just don't have the space.

I might just end up buying my next frog from there, even though they're selling Dumpies for twice the price of what I've seen everywhere else, but with shipping costs it'd end up being cheaper than buying one online. I don't know, I guess I have some decisions to make.