Hybrids?

[poison beauties]

like you said NATURAL HYBRIDS, not idiot produced outcrossed Tinctorious Morphs. They are infact sperated by natural barriers and yes natural hybrids do occur, but to say you want to cross them purposely here maes no since. Why? Do you not have enough options as to color and pattern in this hobby? Do you really want to end up on the list that floats around the dart frog hobby on known hybridizers and be considered an outcast to which people will not accept frogs from you or sell you any? Think I'm joking? I bet if anyone else knows me they know I'm not, you seem to just want to start **** but go over to DB or DF and announce you liking of Hybridizing Dart Frogs, Even feel free to mention your practicing it. I will be waiting. Either way you name is known.

Michael

[smashtoad]

like you said NATURAL HYBRIDS, not idiot produced outcrossed Tinctorious Morphs. They are infact sperated by natural barriers and yes natural hybrids do occur, but to say you want to cross them purposely here maes no since. Why? Do you not have enough options as to color and pattern in this hobby? Do you really want to end up on the list that floats around the dart frog hobby on known hybridizers and be considered an outcast to which people will not accept frogs from you or sell you any? Think I'm joking? I bet if anyone else knows me they know I'm not, you seem to just want to start **** but go over to DB or DF and announce you liking of Hybridizing Dart Frogs, Even feel free to mention your practicing it. I will be waiting. Either way you name is known.

Michael

Wow...enter Chris Crocker.

Told ya...didn't even take 5 minutes. Hey Skippy...take your dendroclique and shove it. If I produced terribilus that were grass green...you think I would have trouble selling them? If so you are a moron.

[poison beauties]

Wow...enter Chris Crocker.

Told ya...didn't even take 5 minutes. Hey Skippy...take your dendroclique and shove it. If I produced terribilus that were grass green...you think I would have trouble selling them? If so you are a moron.

Maybe not but it would NOT be respected breeders/ hobbyists that bought them which again proves my point that all the hybridization and selective breeding for new traits is all about the money. How long have you been in the Dart Frog hobby and what well respected hobbyists agree with your views on this? I can name plenty that share my views both seasoned hobbyists and new. Ive been in this hobby since 1999 and EVERY hobbyist that shares those views are looked down on if not completely shunned.
Before 1999 I was breeding other herps and yes I know hybridizing and selective breeding is all they are about now. That is where many new amphibian hobbyists come from with those views.

Michael

[bshmerlie]

The thing with darts is that they body shapes all look alike. So sometimes its just the color or certain markings that separate different lines. If we start cross breeding it muddies the water. Now someone could unknowingly buy a frog thinking its one thing and it might not be. Yes I know everyone loves their mutt dog ....you've seen them...the german Shepard poodle mix. But when you look at them you know its a mutt. There is no confussion about it. But with darts that's not the case. It can be hard to tell. So keep them separate so that the original colors and markings will still be there for future generations of frog nerds. Please keep the conversation civil this does not have to be an argument.

[clownonfire]

I got myself some popcorn. This is more entertaining than the last season of Dexter.

I am with the hobbyists, on this one. It's this pompous humankind desire to temper with everything that confuses me. It doesn't matter if we're able to create a brand new set of morphs. It's not our place. If it happens out there, in nature, then let it take its natural course. There's no need for us to change or add or to modify. It serves no purpose. If anything, with the decreasing population of frogs, why not put our efforts into preserving the endangered existing species?

Now my keyboard is all buttery.