I even dug up the two week old thread to show the last sizing-philoisophical conversation you got into. Maybe I'll bump it up to the top so u can find it. As far as the whites, seems like not all whites get 4/5 inches. If this is the case, and my guys stay 3 inches, I will probably get another one. But if i get a big girl that changes it. And there's totaly nothing wrong with asking questions and discussing things. If you go on the net and find an Aussie site and read their tank size for whites it's totaly different. And since this is where whites come from, I think that is also a valuble opponion.