Need Help AGAIN, WTF won't...poop.

[Kurt]

OK Let me explain what I meant by exactly. I was asking for the exact temperature or at least an approximation. The reason being is people have different definitions of what they call warm water. Example; when I soak in a hot tub that is a temperature of 103 F, I consider that to be warm and cozy (and you will have a tough time trying to get me out of it ). However that temperature will kill your frog.

[Leefrogs]

So fir further refrence can we be a little more percise, besides anything below 103. So, what, WTF. 70, 75, less!?!?!

[Kisa]

Kurt, I knew what you meant by your question, it was the wording and the tone of the message that confused me. But anyway, that's settled now.

Usually the water I put him in is just above room temperature, that is, warm to the touch of my hand but not so warm that you can tell the difference right away. I wait until the water is at that temp where it's hard to tell if it's even warm at all, so as not to harm him. Unfortunately I don't have a thermometer on hand that I could measure the temperature with but I don't think my water is too hot.

Update:

I soaked Bruce last night and nothing happened! I put him in a luke warm (little warmer than room temperature) water for 8 minutes (went a little over the five that was suggested just to be sure he got a nice long soak) and still no poop. :/

I'm going to try a bigger dose of mineral oil tonight with his food, and only feed him one large cricket (all oiled up) and a very small cricket. He's starting to look pretty bloated, we need to clear this blockage soon before he gets really hurt.

If nothing happens tomorrow morning after a soak AND mineral oil treatment, I'm going to call the vet. I really don't want to have to take him back there (I'm almost out of savings and I was under the impression that he was totally healthy, except for his eyes) but if he is impacted and there are serious risks to his health involved, I'm not going to sit around and let him get hurt or die.

I'll post tonight after the feeding/soaking.

Thanks for reading/posting everyone, your suggestions have been a big help.

I hope after this I never have to post another "sick frog" thread again! D:

[DonLisk]

Well, we all hope poor Bruce poops for you :-) What a funny thing to say but really I know we all do.

My Whites poop usually while hanging off a water dish or leaf and then sometimes in the water. I don't see them go while standing on the substrate all that often.

[lnaminneci]

Awwww ...I hope Bruce has a "movement" for you soon, and will be alright. Keep us posted.

And a soak in a "warm" hot tub actually sounds very nice...... I would call that warm water as well.


~Lesley

[clownonfire]

It's quite remarquable how invested you are with Bruce. Hoping it all turns in your favor. Keep us posted, Kisa.

[Kisa]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your support.

No poop!

I took a cricket, basically drowned it in oil and fed it to him, along with one other dry and no poop! My friends all say he doesn't look bloated but I feel like he is! I took some pictures of him to show you guys, I'm really not all too sure what bloating looks like, so if you guys could take a look at them and let me know your opinions that would be great.

So if he doesn't have a movement by tomorrow it will have been two weeks since he's pooped, I imagine he's getting pretty backed up and full of waste. I tried the warm soak and the oil, but I don't think either one of those is doing the job, so if you guys don't have anymore suggestions I'll have to take him to the vet again soon to make sure he's not impacted.

I don't want him to die after all this because he was constipated! I've spent so much time and money on him I'm not going to let this happen!

If you guys have anymore suggestions that I could try I would be very grateful, but so far it looks like I'll have to take him back to the doctor.

Thanks for all your help guys, I appreciate you all trying to help me.

Oh, and I almost forgot, there is some good news I wanna share.

I was spraying Bruce down with the squirt bottle last night and I noticed him making a strange movement with his stomach, at first I thought this was the poop that I had been waiting for but all of a sudden, his throat puffed out and he started croaking! I was so excited to finally hear him make some noise, and really happy that he turned out to be a boy after all! He croaked pretty loudly about five or six times and then went quiet and wouldn't do it again.

I'm taking this as a good sign, no matter what people tell me. I've read several times that croaking is a sign that a frog is not stressed and is comfortable in his surroundings. I am so happy to finally see that he isn't scared anymore, and is finally settling in to his new home!

Now all we have to do is get him to make #2! D<

Here are those pictures:

http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/...0123001203.jpg
There he is sleeping with his eyes closed, but sitting up like he's awake. Dork. >>

http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/...0123001236.jpg
And here he is after I woke him up with the noise from the camera, lookin around.

I still maintain that he is the cutest thing I have ever seen. ^ ^

[Kurt]

Try soaking for up to a half an hour in water that is between 78 and 82 F. I don't think 5 minutes is enough time.

[Kisa]

Try soaking for up to a half an hour in water that is between 78 and 82 F. I don't think 5 minutes is enough time.

I tried about 20 minutes today in warm water, when I pulled him out he was brown and angry. There was no feces in the water bowl and as soon as I put him back in his tank he went to sleep right where I set him. I'll try soaking him longer tomorrow, I think he's had enough for today, for some reason he really hates it when I soak him, in any temperature water.

[Kisa]

Great news everyone!

Bruce FINALLY pooped!

I took him to the vet yesterday out of fear that this could be serious (also I had to take my dog, who's been very sick this past week), got some laxatives, fed them to him on a cricket and also off the end of a modified Q-tip (with the cotton part cut off) and he left me a large, healthy-looking present right in the middle of his rock bridge, where I could see it plain as day!

I got up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and found Mr. Campbell had done it for me! So happy right now.

Thank you everyone for all your help and support (even though in the end all he needed was a laxative) and suggestions, even if they didn't work for my case. Now I can finally say that Bruce should be A-OK, 100% clean and free!

Also, some more good news.

I set up his new viv last night after coming home from the vet (took a good three hours to clean and set everything up) and uploaded some pictures of it to an album in my profile entitled "Viv setup/s", so if anyone wants to see Bruce's new and improved home, go check it out!

Just wanted to thank everyone again, this will hopefully be the last time I ever post a "help" thread on this forum. Instead I'll spend more time trying to help others, and shopping for a companion for Mr. Campbell...>>

[lnaminneci]

Kisa,

YAY!!!!! LOL I bet you've never been soooo happy to see poo poo! What us mommy's do.....

Soooo glad to hear Bruce has finally done it.....I think he was just holding it in cause he liked all the attention....

Congrats, and many wishes for more poop for you in the future!

~Lesley