Vet says hookworms, I need poo pro's

[Leefrogs]

I'm hope it's morning in new zeland so some poo pros can tell me bout hookworms. Vet here had to check resorces to see if horseshoe shapes would be hookworms. But hes only seen one frog in 10 years. I live in cow country, I can't belive he didn't know for sure. I can't find pancure-C anywhere. Private petshop gave me metro+ for fish and told me to check doses on web. No dice. One site said hookworms were impossible to get out of Viv. Help I have touched this poo!!!!! Got from chain store, both eating well, poo is firm, but one frog has backbone visible with big belly, and it hasn't changed in 3 weeks. How do I dose frogs and get worm eggs out of tank? The frogs also had no spots when they got here. Now plenty showing up--- relevant?

[Ebony]

Hi there and welcome to the forum.

Im sorry but Im not able to help you in regards to worms. I would suggest trying to take a photo of the eggs if you can so members here that have had experience with them can help.

Can I just ask though..how come you think New Zealander's are Poo Pro's? lol

[Leefrogs]

LOL ebony. Was messaging u and I think u were writing me. I'm hoping
I'm in right spot to see advice.

[Leefrogs]

Didn't assume all NZ knew about frog poo. But whoever wrote fecal exams from NZ. Frog-O-t his name. No visible worms. Microscopic. Local vets here treat cows, lucky to even have one look at frog poo. Cant post Picts on Junk iPhone. I read this forum for months before getting frogs. Should all parasites give frogs runns? Is that the sighn to look for? Ur a sweetie-- makes me miss my island home. Good humor and aloha. G

[Paul Rust]

You need to find Fenbendazole to treat your frog. Did the vet describe what he found in the fecal sample, eggs, larva? L3 (third stage) hookworms can penetrate through the skin.

[Leefrogs]

oh Paul. I missed u. Vet said they were horseshoe shaped and had to check refrences. One site said the eggs live in viv for 2 years. Like bleach won't kill them. Omg!!!! I need wormed too!!!!:@ I live 2 hours away from vet and tried to have him send med in mail after I weigh frog. But he wants me to drive them down there in sub zero temps. I don't even know how far I'd have to drive for a real exotics vet. Please tell me stage 3 doesn't look like a horse shoe.

[Paul Rust]

Hookworm eggs hatch and the adults develop in the soil, if the feces are old or the worms are in the soil, you could possibly get some. Eggs are passed in the feces and if the vet saw horseshoe shapes, it was likely eggs or not hookworms at all. Sounds like you need a good vet.

[Leefrogs]

oh my god, I love u, r my vet. U could come here and give classes to many wana bee's. I was hoping it was just jaws to waxworms. There are no others. I called all day for vets in Chippewa and eau claire. I'm going to order the worker u suggested. But atleast I'm not going to have to deworm me and my son. Fecies was fresh, but kinda dry. Sat outside of cage for 5 r so hours. Until I found vet, same1 who tested, who told me to seal in bag. So should I use bleach vinigar or salt for best 1st cleaning. Had them 3 weeks. Do I have to move them after worming? Deep clean each time? And please tell me that's the only one they can go through skin!!!

[Leefrogs]

And I wana say I'm sorry to every1 I bothered all night long. Couldn't sleep after googling hookworms. No reference, exept one that said throw out your viv and everything in it. Scared me to death. And sorry for crappy spelling, iPhone can only spellcheck 5 letter words. And no Picts , guna have my friend do that. I have no pc. This is my first forum, chat, anything. Ya, I'm lame, no face book, I have enough to do. I have like 3 more questions, could be here all day!! Nagh!! If I calcium dust the moist can cricks they are totaly white, too much calcium is bad, I hand feed. Should I dust much lighter or less often? And I've had that viv covered for 3 weeks on all 4 sides(good ventalation, humidity drops 5% everyday and filled with live plants) how should I grad get them used to my loft style home? Pull up slowly1 inch a week? No quiet room here. And lastly, the cleaning for worms. All plants in low pots with just repti bark. No poo landed in pots. And again, many mahalos, I'm so gratefull. I will post Picts after Xmas

[Paul Rust]

And I wana say I'm sorry to every1 I bothered all night long. Couldn't sleep after googling hookworms. No reference, exept one that said throw out your viv and everything in it. Scared me to death. And sorry for crappy spelling, iPhone can only spellcheck 5 letter words. And no Picts , guna have my friend do that. I have no pc. This is my first forum, chat, anything. Ya, I'm lame, no face book, I have enough to do. I have like 3 more questions, could be here all day!! Nagh!! If I calcium dust the moist can cricks they are totaly white, too much calcium is bad, I hand feed. Should I dust much lighter or less often? And I've had that viv covered for 3 weeks on all 4 sides(good ventalation, humidity drops 5% everyday and filled with live plants) how should I grad get them used to my loft style home? Pull up slowly1 inch a week? No quiet room here. And lastly, the cleaning for worms. All plants in low pots with just repti bark. No poo landed in pots. And again, many mahalos, I'm so gratefull. I will post Picts after Xmas

Don't be sorry for asking questions.
I'm glad to help but I'm certainly not a vet, I just get bored easily and like to spend a lot of time researching these things that we as pet owners need to know. I know...pathetic huh?....

[Leefrogs]

nothing pathetic bout helping the helpless. And helping the helpless help the helpless. LOL that's kinda why I got these frogs for my 3 yr old. He hunts frogs and toads all summer. After he dehydrated a big beautiful treefrog this last year--- that was it. I put it out by window after a good soak in hopes to see him on our window where bugs gather. Pretty sure an hour hug did it in. So I'm saving the healthy natives by having Whites Tree Frog. And I'm sure u help 10x more people than just members. Good merrit for next life dude. And on that point I wana say u should always take advise of your vet, as long as he sees more than 1 frog every 10 years

[bshmerlie]

How are your sick frogs doing? And...how long have you had frogs for? Not the ones you son has been dehydrating ...just the ones you are trying to keep alive.

[Leefrogs]

Theyre not sick but u r. Just cuz I made u eat yr own words. There's nothing m ashamed of here B

[Leefrogs]

Just in case anyone else lives far from a vet, I found a dr does fecals through mail for 18$. Drfrye.dvm@sbcglobal.net

[bshmerlie]

Theyre not sick but u r. Just cuz I made u eat yr own words. There's nothing m ashamed of here B

You never answered the question. Just how long have you had your frogs?

[poison beauties]

Hookworms are very possible whether caused from your own viv conditions or from where the frogs came from. First off they are decently easy for a vet to spot and panacur isnt that hard to find but I would suggest sending a fecal to DR David Frye. Its not that pricey and he will give you a definite answer on whether or not you have hookworks, lungworms, coccidia and all the other nasties. He will also set you up with the treatment needed. Usually its just a simple dusting of the food once a week for 8 weeks then you test again.
Keep in mind if you have a higher load of hookworms you will need to break down the viv and start over after sterilizing it to get rid of them all together otherwise your just treating the frogs in a contaminated viv. This just causes them to become recontaminated and over time there is talk of excessive treatments becoming immune,
Your best bet is to quarantine your frogs when you get them in tubs or anything that is easily cleaned and sterilized so you can have fecals done before they go into a viv and contaminate it.

Michael

[Leefrogs]

thanks but this was an old post braught up out of spite. I have dealt with the good doctor, he is quick and thorough. The nearest vet is in the next state, this was my only option. I waisted 50$ on other vet.