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[Kurt]

You should always quarantine all new animals before introducing them to your other established animals. So there is a high possibility for cross infection in this situation of yours. It would be a good idea to see the vet, have them both checked out. A fecal test should be done as well and your fecal sample should be no more than 24 hours old. Any older and it is no good for testing. I think is an extremely safe bet that there will be gastrointestinal parasites in the fecal sample.

Also it is illegal to release captive animals into the wild even if they are native.

[John]

Also it is illegal to release captive animals into the wild even if they are native.

Is this a US federal law? Remember that this is an international web site (it's actually located in London, England). I'd be very interested in seeing the text of that law.

[Kurt]

I believe it to be a US Fedral Law. Don't know where to find the actual text of the law. Sorry.

[John]

I believe it to be a US Fedral Law. Don't know where to find the actual text of the law. Sorry.

I think this is highly suspect. Otherwise there are kids all over the US breaking the law when they let their froglets go after keeping tadpoles.

[Kurt]

Well they are not going to chase after little kids. It aimed at people releasing pets after they get bored with or overwhelmed by their pets and let them go. It to protect native species from disease and invasive species. I know it a law in MA and I am 75% certain it applies to the entire country.

[John]

What you just described does not describe releasing native species back to where they came from. I'd like something solid.

[Kurt]

The disease part does. Tell you what I will do some digging and let you know what I find.

[SludgeMunkey]

Is this a US federal law? Remember that this is an international web site (it's actually located in London, England). I'd be very interested in seeing the text of that law.

As far as I have been able to find out it is not a federal law, however, it is State law just about everywhere, as best as I can tell. Many, many Cities and counties also have similar laws.

So, thanks to the Lacey Act, in some cases it could be a federal offense, since the Lacey Act re-enforces state and local laws. Simply put- if it is illegal to do in a state, then it is illegal federally.

[adawinters]

Do you know if the releasing laws have any exemptions for minors? I know that states that require herping permits also have policies (sometimes? I don't know about all 50 states, and some have no herping policies at all) wherin children/minors can catch amphibians without the required permits. I just wondered if release laws have any age-specific exemptions as well.

Sorry if I'm keeping us off topic. I hope that speedy will be ok with the new guy. Maybe, once you finish the quarantine period, you could introduce them for supervised together-time? You could monitor their interactions to see if there is any aggression/food dominance/attempted ingestion spurred on by the size discrepancy, while you're there to break it up. Over a few weeks/months of supervised visits, you might better be able to judge if they can be housed together. (And Speedy will have grown a bit, anyway.) At 3 and 5 inches, does it really look like he can fit her in his mouth? (I've never actually kept bullfrogs, so while I know they're voracious eaters, I'm not sure how big their prey items get. I could easily be way off the mark.)

[Kurt]

I think the frogs have already been introduced and house together.

[SludgeMunkey]

I agree Kurt.

The good news is, Bullfrogs are hardy lads, and this thread has developed nicely into information on adding animals to an existing collection.

[John]

Except that your signature says frogs are reptiles...