A different "type" of pixie???

[willtilian]

it doesnt look like webster webster has a very prominent hook beak

[Roman]

Great Pictures Malachi... thanks
Ok, so what is he? I was reading the research you guys were doing on how to define the species. The differences between P. adspersus and P. edulis and a third option of E. obbianus with all the many subs in-between. I think its awesome that the people on this site are so into their animals as to get into the phylum and sub phylums of these remarkable animals. Ive ordered all the books mentioned so I can sort it out myself but, I like others opinions and discussions.
So... I am in agreement that its a regional thing. Like darwin and his finches, I think these beautiful animals have cross bread in the areas that they over lap causing pattern, color and size to get intermixed. I think I have a cross breed of one of those interactions with all his crazy mixed up signs. I would guess by using the overlap theory that he is A) from Mozambique B) birthed from parents from that region or C) just a genetic hodgepodge of frog parts made by lots of crazy breeding over time. Like the Danny Diveto of Twins LOL

[onedge30]

Roman, looking closely at your frog, Waaq Padda. I believe it is a male P. edulis. Why? Coloration- looking at the belly, back, upper lip, Lip- more of an overlap of the upper lip, Eyes are larger and closer to typanum, and Size- he is full grown(but large for his species.

Malachi, on your P. adspersus pictured, how much orange is there around the shoulder. Looks like a female?

[Roman]

Jeff,
Right on, I dont disagree with you. I believe it to be true, really... Im not one of those who only wants a P.adspersus. I like Waaq as a pet. Hes active, seemingly friendly ( prob just hungry and sings beautifully. But, hes not a traditional P. edulis. I was just wanting to start a conversation about possibilities and hear other peoples stories...

[tgampper]

Hi ABF Fans:

I really love this debate we are having. I am currently communicating with Dr. Charles Parry, who spent many years researching the genus Pyxicephalus. With your permission, Roman, I would like to email pictures of Waaq to him for his opinion. Maybe we can get some good advice on identifying specific species.

[Malachi]

Hi African Bullfrog Fans:

I really love this debate we are having. I am currently communicating with Dr. Charles Parry, who spent many years researching the genus Pyxicephalus. With your permission, Roman, I would like to email pictures of Waaq to him for his opinion. Maybe we can get some good advice on identifying specific species.

Terry has had a project going with this since the summer.

The only clear frog is the P.A. from South Africa.

[Roman]

Tgampper/Malachi,
Of course! I would love that! Thank You Ive been following your debate with on this forum with great anticipation and excitement. I ordered all the books mentioned and have been trying to educate myself as much as possible but, as you guys already know, its largely speculation right now... If I can be of Any service< please let me know.

[Malachi]

Malachi, on your P. adspersus pictured, how much orange is there around the shoulder. Looks like a female?

100% juvenile male, I have a female you can see them in the album.

The edulis is also a male I've heard croaking.