Feeding frog to frog

[Malachi]

I went to the asian market today and saw only huge frogs for sale ( too big to feed to my bullfrog yet). I decided to look in the back. Low and behold a 10 pack of couple inch frogs for 6$.

I couldn't catch him snagging it since i wasn't even sure he would go for it. Well and soon as I made it move he attacked. This video is 5 seconds after the grab.

YouTube - African bullfrog eats frog

[jjmorton13]

There was quite a bit of controversy not far back about someone posting pictures of their frog eating another frog, despite a clear "warning" at the top of the post, just FYI. What kind of frogs were they? Any idea on their source (farmed, wild caught, country of origin etc)?

[Malachi]

If a person does not want to see it why click on it, also its not live. They are farmed East Asian Bullfrogs from Vietnam.

[jjmorton13]

If a person does not want to see it why click on it, also its not live.

I don't disagree, just thought I would let you know in case you were unaware of that previous thread.

They are farmed East Asian Bullfrogs from Vietnam.

Thanks for the info!

[Eel Noob]

Thanks for the great idea. I shop there all the time just never crossed my mind to use them for my frogs. Have bought frozen krills to feed my fishes though.


I remember reading something about how it's bad to feed frozen fishes to frogs, causes vitamin B deficiency or something like that. Wonder if frozen frogs do the same?

[Myles]

i dont see anything wrong with using a frog as food in the wild if a frog passed buy a pixie it would get guzzled! i appreciate you posting this video nice looking frog bro

[willtilian]

i think frogs are a perfect food source besides the cannabalism part because they are a great source of calcium dont have much fat and could maybe be a once a week staple

[Tony]

You are taking a huge risk by feeding off frogs fresh from the market, you may have just introduced chytrid, pathogenic bacteria, or internal parasites.

[Malachi]

You are taking a huge risk by feeding off frogs fresh from the market, you may have just introduced chytrid, pathogenic bacteria, or internal parasites.

It is frozen/thawed. I forgot to put that in the post. I was under the impression that if its frozen there is not much risk of the above?

I researched and asked and it was the general consensus that it was ok to feed frozen frogs. If there is still a risk please let me know.

[Tony]

It is frozen/thawed. I forgot to put that in the post. I was under the impression that if its frozen there is not much risk of the above?

I researched and asked and it was the general consensus that it was ok to feed frozen frogs. If there is still a risk please let me know.

Freezing does not destroy chytrid, it thrives under cool conditions and is able to survive being frozen. Treating the frogs for chytrid before freezing is probably the safest way to go, though heating the (pre-killed) frogs before feeding may also be sufficient, bringing them up to a temperature of 120 degrees and holding it there for half an hour or so should do the trick.

Here is some info on chytrid.

[poison beauties]

I would make sure to test that frog a time or two in the next couple of months,

Michael

[Malachi]

Freezing does not destroy chytrid, it thrives under cool conditions and is able to survive being frozen. Treating the frogs for chytrid before freezing is probably the safest way to go, though heating the (pre-killed) frogs before feeding may also be sufficient, bringing them up to a temperature of 120 degrees and holding it there for half an hour or so should do the trick.

Here is some info on chytrid.

Thank you. I bought them frozen, so i think the 120 degree thing is what I will do. I also remember reading that African Bullfrogs have a natural resilience to Chytrid due to being from Africa. Has anyone heard of this?

[Kevin1]

I've heard of it. I think it was on this forum. It may not affect them as badly. When I treated chubbz cause I suspected he may carry it, I noticed an increase in appetite and energy afterwords.

[John911]

Let me tell you...treating 17 pacman frogs is a blast!

Their colors got really vivid though....interesting.

[Malachi]

I am in the process of contacting various experts in BD. I will try and compile their opinions.

[Tony]

Let me tell you...treating 17 pacman frogs is a blast!

Their colors got really vivid though....interesting.

Does it look a little like this?



That is a pic from Steve Busch, one of the developers of the Lamasil treatment. Looks quite a bit easier than the 7 red eyes I had to deal with.

[John911]

Yup pretty much. Lots of extra tupperwear now!. I read busch did his entire collection which I believe was pretty large.

[onedge30]

WOW!!! That is a picture. All those in treatment.

Ok, this maybe a stupid question, but is there anyway of not having to treat an entire seasons worth of frog offspring!! Which could be in the 1000's!!

[Kevin1]

If the adults and breeding/rearing chamber are treated it should be fine Jeff.