Ceratophrys stolzmanni setup

[dachshundsr4me]

Our "frog room" aka the dining room is pretty much in constant evolution and I was thinking of using 12x12x12 exo terra's for our horned frogs because of the front opening(easy maintenance). Then my voice of reason(my girlfriend) pointed out that add a big pacman+a water dish big enough for it and theres just no room for it. After we got our 5" female and put it in a 10, it almost seems cramped for her.

Exactly...these were on sale is why they are in them (29.00 at petsmart regular 49.00...like almost 1/2 off) for now but will get a larger tank when its needed. I also liked the easy access door. I really want to get this size (see link below) later but its gonna cost me. I do not mind spending it on them though later. But that will be 750.00 to do for all of them....anyway that is my wish list item. =) Maybe I will find it on sale somewhere like I found the smaller size one. Never know. Dimensions on this one is 36x18x18. More then likely i will settle on a 10 or 20 long though.
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[John911]

Here is what I think were gonna keep. Ignore the one ten that is shorter its already replaced lol.

4-10's per 48" shelf. Sides and back painted black on Jeff K's advice. The shelf has heat cable run in the front half of all the tanks, it doesnt actually contact the bottom itself but it hits 80 right above them on the glass(used a heat gun). The tank is also too long for the shelf,which is ok cause it keeps it from sitting on the cables. Pretty easy just to slide each tank out about half way and change water/mist/feed.

[Tony]

Protean Terrariums are a great option too, they are custom made to fit on the wire bakers racks. The 15x17x12 size will fit three per shelf and offers about 55 square inches more floor space than a standard 10 gallon.

Here are some of mine:

[dachshundsr4me]

@John & @ Tony...those are both lovely...I will keep them in mind when needing to get the next size for my guys.

[gtr319]

@ John, Tony: Wow... sweet spot!! I wish i have that much room in my bed room, but still looking to add one more to the collection^^
@ Cheri: I thought they are about 2 inch full grown ground dwelling frogs, why a 20 gallon? My pacmans have more than enough space (in my opinion) even when they are in a 10g now. The only time I would see them move is when they are hunting (sort of, my albino is hella lazy about it and would wait for food to walk in front of him/her, while the green pacman would chase after the crickets)

[bshmerlie]

The care sheet from Understory recommends a 20 gallon for the adults. I haven't bought the tanks yet so I'll see how active they are and adjust accordingly. I agree about not making the tank too big sometimes. My baby red eyes had to get over an inch and a half before they seemed comfortable outside their small enclosure. It almost seems like they get lost if the tank is too big. The big question now is how should I heat the tank. What is most everyone doing out there? John suggested it might be dangerous to put it under the tank even if the substrate is raised I'm assuming because I was planning to have a little water down there. Could the glass crack? It doesn't feel hot enough to do that but I've also never tried it over a period of time.

[gtr319]

I am currently using under the tank heater and I stick mine on directly onto the glass bottom, so far so good, no crack or nth.

[John911]

The big question now is how should I heat the tank. What is most everyone doing out there? John suggested it might be dangerous to put it under the tank even if the substrate is raised I'm assuming because I was planning to have a little water down there. Could the glass crack? It doesn't feel hot enough to do that but I've also never tried it over a period of time.

I have asked the same thing. The answer...it depends. I had no luck with a pad on the side. Maybe if your house was already pretty warm. But here in chicago in an older house, no way.

I read on another forum, pacmaster i think his name is said, put egg crate down, put the heat pad beneath the tank where it belongs. Frog cant burrow down far enough to burn, and it stays warm. Other people will tell you, use a heat light. Horned frogs burrow to escape heat. But then you are drying out the substrate something fierce. If your house is pretty warm, maybe just a space heater in that room?

[dachshundsr4me]

My house isn't warm enough. I am lucky if it is 72 degrees in one room. So I had to place the heater under the tank. It wasn't warm enough without. I use the Zoo-Med Repti Therm. I have never had one of them get too hot. Never say never though is what they say...this is why i use the thermometer almost at dirt level so i can see what it is at their level. I also one time a day stick my finger into the dirt to be able to see if its too warm. So far its comfortable. They seem to love it too and its only on part of their tank so if they are too warm they can move to an area that isn't being warmed at the time.

[earthtiger]

Any updates on any C. stolzmanni. Haven't heard/red a lot since the import(s).