A couple of pictures and a couple of questions

[ramble]

I got pictures of my happy little pair and I was wondering if they look skinny or normal to you guys. Some of the pictures I've seen online, the frogs look much beefier and I'm sure mine were underfed before with their four pellets a week total.





Also, the one in the picture above, his legs have always had a pinkish hue but we've only had them a couple of weeks. That's not red leg, is it? Isn't red leg usually dark splotches?

Also, the little froggies have been very naughty - there were eggs floating in the tank this morning.

[Dejavudoo]

I looked at some pics too. They look like they could be withing the normal range. If not, just keep feeding them regularly and I would think they should fatten up for you. Hopefully someone else can answer that better for you.

Are you going to keep the eggs?

[Jenste]

I am a little surprised that you had eggs in your tank - - your frogs seem very young...
the "plump" frogs you see online are probably females.

You have african DWARF frogs....can you check the genders? look under their arm pits behind their forearms, and look for a small bump, looks similar to a pimple, and it can be white/gray/pink in color (and any shade in between!)


and no - their legs look fine and healthy to me. ADF frog skin is quite thin, so you can see their little veins which give it a pink coloring - -

[ramble]

I looked under/behind their arms and I do not see anything. I figured I had two females, but the male (I presume) has been calling every night since I moved them to the bigger tank and the first morning I saw him latched onto her, but not since. The female has the little bump on her....I forgot the right term. On her bum. Vent? That's the only way I can tell them apart.

I think there were eggs after the first night I put them in there, but I didn't know what they were. I thought it was debris from the new plants or something. They're like pepper flecks they're so tiny. I guess it means they're happy!

So good to know about the pinkish hue. It hadn't gotten worse so I didn't think it was anything to worry about...but I worry anyway.

We went to the pet store today and they had two TINY ADFs in with a dead one , made mine look huge. I so badly wanted to rescue the two living ones and put them in a quarantine tank, but I think my husband would freak. (We had already said no more animals before these two frogs! He would surely notice yet another tank.)

[Jenste]

If both are lacking the bump under the front arm then they are females. Males always have that bump



The vent is the term used for their bum on both species.... cloaca is the term for the female "bump" on the vent which is used for depositing eggs and waste.


If you keep seeing eggs...this is actually a bad thing. Its not like with fish where the more they breed the happier they are. Females should be mated 4 times a year at MOST with a few months in-between each breeding. Over breeding can cause the female to become ill and produce very weak eggs.

If you notice that she keeps breeding then you should separate her from the male

[ramble]

So if I saw eggs two days ago and then yesterday, is that considered two separate breeding sessions? I figured they were just "in season" or happy with their new tank. The male was not calling nearly as much last night and there were no eggs in their tank this morning so maybe they got it out of their system. If not, then I will move her out. Or should I now? Or wait and see if he starts calling again? They seemed pretty mellow last night.

There is definitely a male because I spotted some tadpoles (hatched but not free swimming) in the tank this morning. Apparently they didn't find the eggs hanging out in the plants.

[Jenste]

males call nearly every night - don't let that concern you. but - should you keep seeing eggs. definitely separate them for a bit to let the female rest.


tadpoles!!! yay!!! I breed aCf, not aDf, but I do know that in order to have any tadpoles survive once they leave the "clinging" stage and into the freeswimming stage, you need to have live bbs cultures already ready. these tadpoles are solely hunters and not filter feeders like clawed tadpoles.

also, you should separate parents from tadpoles to keep the parents from eating them - - thats IF you want to try raising them....

now get out a magnifying glass and take some more pictures

[ramble]

I did save a few. I just couldn't watch them all being eaten (again, but before I didn't know what they were). I know, nature's course and all, but still. I think the majority of them had been eaten but I've got maybe 20 in a very small temporary tank. It's just big enough to fit a heater and I've been reading all day to figure out what else I need.

I started an infusoria colony and ordered shrimp eggs but I'm going to stop by a pet store tomorrow and see if they have infusoria just in case. It seems a lot simpler/safer than growing my own.

I'm pretty sure my husband is going to have me committed....so if you guys don't hear from me again, that's where I am.

[Jenste]

haha awesome! can't wait for pictures. my fiance is very....accepting....tolerating?....of my frog obsession he has put a limit to the number of tanks i can have at the moment - we do live in a 1 bedroom apartment after all lmao....but once we more - LOOK OUT!

[ramble]

I just explained the whole infusoria/bbs thing to him (after my wild goose chase to pet stores today) and he laughed.

If you want pictures, here is the first of what will be many...I hope:



I thought they were all dead today because apparently, when they hatch, they drop to the bottom and lay still. Then they come back up and stick to the sides or whatever they cling to. In between those two events I was sure I killed them all. There are a handful sticking to the sides now. I'll try to get more pictures tomorrow. They're still soooo tiny.

[Jenste]

soo cute! don't you just LOVE tadpoles??

becareful - - it becomes addicting! you find yourself counting on a calendar for the next time you can breed the female!