Thanks Greenlove. I think I started out on the wrong foot perhaps. I have had many many pets over the years but this is my first frog. I joined here because of the great information available, and yes I am learning... but I'm not clueless either.

Anyhow I converted one of my 10 gallon tanks into a vertical viv today. I used another spare tank for the extra bit of glass I needed. I opted for a side open screen door on the front, and I still have to make a background for it, I think I am going to go with clay... Something about the foam method just turns me off... don't the chemicals from the foam and sealant leech into the rest of the habitat?

After I get it all finished, I plan on moving my gray in there and maybe giving him a couple friends. I'm not sure but maybe I can house around four in the vertical 10 gallon. I might wait toll spring though and go collect some... I always hear them calling outside with the spring peepers.

Thanks again.